RocksteadyDotNet
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Wat.
What I said was that before Bush I respected the U.S.
8 Years of Republican rule has ruined your reputation around the world.
Wat.
What I said was that before Bush I respected the U.S.
8 Years of Republican rule has ruined your reputation around the world.
RocksteadyDotNet
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"conservative beliefs" is ambiguous.
Do you belive in fiscal conservatism or social conservatism? They are mutually exclusive.
Jesus wouldn't have let poor people go without health care.
RocksteadyDotNet
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Err, read your bible. It's all in there.
He died to save ALL. Not just the rich.
He healed the rich and the poor alike. Except muslims of cource.
Do you have any proof of that statement?
That doesn't add up considering there are no fiscal conservatives running for president and the (R) party has been pandering to those on the extreme religious right as long as I can remember.
Except evolution isn't taught in the history or sociology classrooms, it's taught in the SCIENCE classroom, where giving an overview of beliefs to provide "historical context" is not the objective. If people wanted creationism taught during a religious overview type class, that would be fine. But they don't, they want it taught in the science classroom as a competing theory alongside evolution, which it is definitely NOT.
Considering that our very 1st amendment guarantees freedom of religion, yeah, I DO have a problem with someone who wants their religious beliefs to be taught as scientific fact. If people believe in God, more power to them, but they should not try to force their beliefs on anyone else...and people who do so are unfit to hold ANY kind of political office.
Well maybe she should have paid more attention to what he was teaching...
Many Republicans have embraced being anti-science...which is fine, I guess. But don't whine when those of us who DO respect science aren't real happy with their decision.
You, of course, prefer to walk around with both eyes closed.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
shira
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Would it be "spin" or "bias" for a teacher to state as fact that the Nazis killed an estimated 5 to 7 million Jews in their attempt top exterminate them, as part of the "Final Solution?"
Or must a teacher be "neutral" with regard to stating a conclusion? That is, must the teacher present the information as follows:
"Those that believe the holocaust took place claim that during WWII the Nazis, as part of the "Final Solution," took Jews and other 'undesirables' from their homes and transferred them to concentration camps for the purpose of killing them. They claim that approximately 6 million Jews died as a result of this alleged extermination campaign. Those that challenge this view claim that no such campaign was carried out by the Nazis, and that although large numbers of Jew (as well as a much larger number of non-Jews) died during WWII, the 6 million figure is a gross examination."
Do you get it? There's no "spinning" in that example. The teacher, in remaining "neutral", is merely presenting the essential points made by "both sides". But in so doing, the overwhelming consensus view is lost. Truth is lost.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Jesus did not die to save all from paying healthcare costs. He died for our sins. Sheesh.
Sure, he went attended a church for 20 years that taught black liberation theology to its people.
Compared to Obama, McCain is a fiscal conservative. Add that with Palin and you can clearly see which ticket is the conservative one.
I wasn't there so I can't say whether that is true or not. Either way, do you believe *everything* that's taught in your church? Do you honestly believe Obama is a black separatist? If so, what has he done since he's been in office to validate that idea?
Yeah, that's what we've been hearing from the (R)'s but their track record shows otherwise.
Or you could just do what many "conservatives" do and look for the (R) next to the name on the ballot. That would certainly help explain why "conservatives" keep giving us out of control deficit spending masquerading as fiscal conservativism and invasive and bigoted social policy as social conservativism.
I think it's quite clear which is the "conservative" ticket, I'm just not sure the people voting that way are really conservatives.
Creationism is for morons who have no real faith. There is nothing you can say to such fools who believe garbage like that. They have no real faith so they are going to hang on to any turd they can find that will float their phony faith. Creationism is for mental pygmies and cowards.
Originally posted by: bamacre
LOL, no. And knowing my disapproval for at least the Republican party, you should know your assumption to be wrong. Perhaps it is your self hatred that has caused you to assume such a thing.
So Obama is a king now?
Exactly what I mean. You are blind about both parties, blinded by ideological prejudice, so when you vote you walk off a cliff.
If politicians didn't allow their personal religion get into the decision making process, I'd leave it alone... But that's the problem that causes my unrest and disrespect for all things "fairy-tale". I wont have nut-jobs deciding how to waste my tax dollars and what we're allowed to study.
bamacre
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
LOL, no. And knowing my disapproval for at least the Republican party, you should know your assumption to be wrong. Perhaps it is your self hatred that has caused you to assume such a thing.
So Obama is a king now?
Exactly what I mean. You are blind about both parties, blinded by ideological prejudice, so when you vote you walk off a cliff.
When you look into the mirror, it is not me who you speak to.
jonks
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Then he failed as both a teacher and a parent.
On Meet the Press Min Gov. Pawlenty was trying to defend Palin's opinion that ID be given equal time with evolution in science classes despite 99% of scientists (and the only federal court to hear the case) stating that ID is not science. He essentially lied and stated "a lot of scientists" agree with ID. Um, no. That's a bald unapologetic lie. Or maybe it's not a lie, since that could be what he actually believes. So that would exculpate him from being a liar, but would simultaneously brand him ignorant. His choice I guess.
He kept copping out and saying "it should be a decision made at the local level." Um, no again. This guy is a governor? Local authorities do not have the right to violate the separation of church and state any more than they have the right to censor a newspaper. Federal law on this issue cannot be ignored by local school boards. Sorry Tim. Go read the constitution and a few SCOTUS decisions on the topic.
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
LOL, no. And knowing my disapproval for at least the Republican party, you should know your assumption to be wrong. Perhaps it is your self hatred that has caused you to assume such a thing.
So Obama is a king now?
Exactly what I mean. You are blind about both parties, blinded by ideological prejudice, so when you vote you walk off a cliff.
When you look into the mirror, it is not me who you speak to.
I have always had eyes in the back of my head.
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