Creating a dialup isp?

[Drakkon]

Ohkay my current connection for starters sux. The connection i use doesn't want to upgrade their modem pool and therefor I only can get a 24Kbps connection (in other words they have 28.8 modems in their modem pool). So I got a friend with cable thats never home and he said that I could use the line there and dialin (to a 56K modem instead) to get at least a little bit faster, and since i only use it prettymuch on the weekend and maybe 30-60 mins each night wouldnt hurt so long as i set it all up and made it secure. I'm a cheap/poor college student and dont want to pay for my own DSL quiet yet
So that being said is this hard to setup? windows XP/2000 would be what the machine could be running...arent there settings in there that allow you to dial into a machine? automatically have it pickup a call when recieved...that whole deal? any help appreciated

 

[Oaf357]

I don't know if you can turn XP into a RAS. 2000 Server you can though. But, you might want to Google around for RAS server freeware. It's theoretically possible the question is can XP or 2000 Pro do it.

 

[Soybomb]

Your max connection speed would be 33.6 as a reminder.....

 

[Buddha Bart]

I'm confused, why is the word "webserver" in your topic?

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Your max connection speed would be 33.6 as a reminder.....

how come...over head?

 

[yak8998]

no - upstream for '56k' is 33.6...

 

[MulLa]

Only ISPs can push 56k down the line to you. I think it's got to do with having a digital connection to the exchange or something like that

 

[Agamar]

I think that is controlled by the FCC regulations. It used to be 33.6k from a consumer modem to another consumer modem. Now I believe it is 44k. (Only on two newer modems).

 

[Drakkon]

there changed from webserver to isp
Well no matter the connection speed i'd still like to test it out just to see if i could possibly get any better of a connection...still looking for RAS freeware to no avail...and a new os (2000 server) doesnt look like an option

 

[Oaf357]

LINUX!

 

[owensdj]

Drakkon, I don't know what cable ISP your friend has, but I can pretty much guarantee that what you're wanting to do will be against the cable ISP's Acceptable Use Policy. If the cable company finds out about this, they might disconnect his Internet service.

 

[ivwshane]

His friends connection is from school

 

[Garion]

To restate this...

A 56K modem connection can *only*get more than 33.6 when the receiving end is on a digital line, like a PRI. If you hook up a regular old modem to your friend's network, you're only going to get 33.6K at max. Most big ISP's have a digital lines (where a single circuit can handle from 23 to thousands of modems on a single wire).

Chances are your ISP has a big old bank of analog modems and regular phone lines, which is why they don't offer anything faster. Go get a new ISP - Problem solved!

- G

 

[Bleep]

Why not try some of those national ISP's I use coppernet when I travel and they have a jillion phone numbers all over the country. I pay $100.00 a year and the hookup is always 48 to 50. Well worth the money.

Bleep

 

[Confused]

If you and your friend both have a V.92 modem, then you might be able to get up to about 42kbps, but it all depends on your phone lines.

Also, are you sure it's not your phone line, and is definately the ISP's end. My friend has an external hardware 56k modem, and is connecting to an ISP with a great 56k service, I used to be able to connect at 52, with the same modem (i sold it to him once i got cable). His phone lines will prevent him from getting any more than 26kbps. No matter what modem he uses, or who he dials to, he gets no more than 26kbps. If your phone line is crap, then every connection you try will get that speed.


Confused

 

[Drakkon]

Currently using a unniversity connection....live a block off campus...me and everyone i know who uses it (fellow employees, students, etc) get at most 28.8Kbps....not matter where they live in town or time of day. The only reason i use it is because its free I'd rather not pay $10+ a month for a service that is nowadays prettymuch obsolete now i know my modem is capable of 56K transfers cause i can dialup using an AOL account and get that sorta connection...wether thats what AOL reports or the actual true speed i dunno...it does seem a lot faster though...

 

[cmetz]

Garion, it was true of v.90 that the ISP needed to use PRIs, but I believe that one of the more recent flavors of CCITT modem standards attempts to relax this requirement. I'm not sure how they do it - off the top of my head knowing how v.90 "56k" works, it seems impossible, but then, so did getting "56k" to begin with, but they managed to pull it off through a simple but clever trick (using the PRI in the first place).

Drakkon, see if you can find the dial-in number for some other ISP (e.g., one of the national ISPs like Earthlink or AOL) and just connect from your home and see what it trains at (you won't be able to log in or anything, but you can get the modem to connect and train, and then it'll report what you trained at). Before going well down this path, make sure that you have successfully trained your modem on your phone line at a higher speed. Because if you can't do that, there's not a lot of evidence you'll be able to do better when you're setting up both sides yourself.

 

[ivwshane]

I would have posted this at tweak3d but the forums are down again:|

This is what I've found, let me know if this works out.

This is for XP pro and it has a dial up networking feature. You will need to:

1. On your friend computer goto Networking Connections-> Create New Connection -> Connect to Network at my workplace -> Dial-up connection. They can then name the connection and put in you phone number.

2. On your computer you must be set up to accept the connection. Networking Connections-> Create New Connection -> Set up an advanced connection -> Accept incomming connections. Then select your modem and choose allow incomming connections.

3. Make sure they have an account to connect to. You must set up or designate an account on you pc for your friend to connect to. They must use this login name and password to connect.

Make sure you firewall does not block them. This gave me multiple headaches untill I figured out how to get around it.


Thanks goes to amw2320 for the info.