crazy audi crash

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

Speed kills. Guns kill. Air causes cancer. Water poisons. Living causes death.

It's not speed.. It's stupidity. Loss of control causes death - and high-speed can cause loss of control. But, at the same speed, a better car probably would have not had a problem handling.

It annoys me when people say speed kills because speed is really the only thing that gets punished. Yet, statistics show that more people die because of running stop signs, red lights, DUI's, than speed.. Sadly, people use speed as one big blanket and say it is involved in all wrecks. But, speeding techincally is involved in almost all driving since the average speed of traffic is usually 5-15% faster than the posted speed limit.

hey what do you expect. its a catchy phrase. we are too impatient to say something like "running a stop sign kills" and have it catch on to the mainstream

 

[CRXican]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

wrong, speed doesn't kill

it's the abrupt stop at the end

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

wrong, speed doesn't kill

it's the abrupt stop at the end

heh. good point.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

Speed kills. Guns kill. Air causes cancer. Water poisons. Living causes death.

It's not speed.. It's stupidity. Loss of control causes death - and high-speed can cause loss of control. But, at the same speed, a better car probably would have not had a problem handling.

It annoys me when people say speed kills because speed is really the only thing that gets punished. Yet, statistics show that more people die because of running stop signs, red lights, DUI's, than speed.. Sadly, people use speed as one big blanket and say it is involved in all wrecks. But, speeding techincally is involved in almost all driving since the average speed of traffic is usually 5-15% faster than the posted speed limit.

Speed is blamed because it's one of the few things that can be measured and given a number. They haven't figured out how to give a number to paying attention yet. None of the accidents that I've had to claim have ever been speed related. Same with my dad. When a 14 year old runs a stop sign, that's not speed related. When a soccer mom doesn't notice a white suburban with phone company logos isn't moving because of a red light, that's not speed releated. When someone wipes the side of your car while backing up because they aren't looking where they are going, that's not speed related. When someone else wipes the other side of your car because they are looking the other direction while backing up, it's not speed related. When some old guy accellerates THROUGH you in a parking lot, that's not speed related.

But since one vehicle is moving, it's speed the caused it. If all vehicles involved weren't moving, there would never be an accident.

 

[radioouman]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

Speed kills. Guns kill. Air causes cancer. Water poisons. Living causes death.

It's not speed.. It's stupidity. Loss of control causes death - and high-speed can cause loss of control. But, at the same speed, a better car probably would have not had a problem handling.

It annoys me when people say speed kills because speed is really the only thing that gets punished. Yet, statistics show that more people die because of running stop signs, red lights, DUI's, than speed.. Sadly, people use speed as one big blanket and say it is involved in all wrecks. But, speeding techincally is involved in almost all driving since the average speed of traffic is usually 5-15% faster than the posted speed limit.

You can't tell me that speed didn't have an effect in this accident. That kind of car carnage doesn't occur at 32 mph or 57 mph.

 

[astrosfan90]

By the way, judging by the vehicles used by the paramedics, this was in Europe--that speedometer is in kilometers. 90 kph is a lot slpwer than 90 mph.

Also, head-on in collisions at that speed cause people to lock their arms on the steering wheel. If you've never seen a steering wheel cut before, they're made out of mostly foam with a thin metal interior that's designed to bend under pressure, just as that one did. It's to prevent the driver from injury should their head hit the steering wheel. Not sure what the deal with the airbags is--perhaps he skidded off the road, slammed into a car sideways and started to cartwheel. Would explain all of the flung car parts everywhere--note what looks like the driver's side door wrapped around a tree back by the road/ambulance.

 

[HumblePie]

Saw all these pictures over 5 years ago when I last did my defensive driving class. These are definately old.

 

[CRXican]

You can't tell me that speed didn't have an effect in this accident. That kind of car carnage doesn't occur at 32 mph or 57 mph.

you think he doesn't realize that? he's just saying high speed accidents get the most attention because they cause this kind of damage though they might not happen as often as the other accidents where speed isn't really a factor. don't be so lame

 

[EyeMWing]

Hrm, the headrest got taken off. I assume his head went with it.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Wow..what a mess. I'm guessing the driver was/is in more pieces than that car. Speed kills, kids.

Speed kills. Guns kill. Air causes cancer. Water poisons. Living causes death.

It's not speed.. It's stupidity. Loss of control causes death - and high-speed can cause loss of control. But, at the same speed, a better car probably would have not had a problem handling.

It annoys me when people say speed kills because speed is really the only thing that gets punished. Yet, statistics show that more people die because of running stop signs, red lights, DUI's, than speed.. Sadly, people use speed as one big blanket and say it is involved in all wrecks. But, speeding techincally is involved in almost all driving since the average speed of traffic is usually 5-15% faster than the posted speed limit.

Some speed is ok... but the idiots who think they're so good that they can drive 30% above the posted limits are dangerous... especially because they are too stupid to understand that the law of physics apply no matter how good you think you are. The human eyes and mind can only react so fast... the faster you go, the less time you have to react... depending upon the event and your speed you may get yourself killed no matter how great a driver you think you are... human beings have limits... and usually those limits are much closer than you think they are.

-Max

 

[Biggerhammer]

His bumper-to-bumper warranty now covers several pine trees.

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i remember this thread, there was a good post in it explaining that the speedometer stuck doesn't mean crap about the speed

Not only that, being that car is Europeeon and the temp gauge is in C, I'd think that the speedo is in Kp/h, not Mp/h... so it's stuck at 100 kph, which is closer to 60 Mph.

Regardless, by the condition of the car it was hauling a$$.

 

[radioouman]

Originally posted by: bernse

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i remember this thread, there was a good post in it explaining that the speedometer stuck doesn't mean crap about the speed

Not only that, being that car is Europeeon and the temp gauge is in C, I'd think that the speedo is in Kp/h, not Mp/h... so it's stuck at 100 kph, which is closer to 60 Mph.

Regardless, by the condition of the car it was hauling a$$.

60 mph is not hauling ass, and you're right about European.

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: astrosfan90
By the way, judging by the vehicles used by the paramedics, this was in Europe--that speedometer is in kilometers. 90 kph is a lot slpwer than 90 mph.

Ah, just saw your post that says what I said. :beer:

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: radioouman
60 mph is not hauling ass, and you're right about European.

No, 60 isn't, but by how the car was ripped it was going more than 60... it was hauling ass at the time of impact.

 

[neutralizer]

Wow. I did not expect metal to be literally wrapped around the tree.

 

[Steve]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1273627&enterthread=y&arctab=y

 

[five40]

Tree 1
Audi 0

 

[MrWizzard]

How about Low IQ kills?

I have heard of cars hitting people so hard the engine has kept on going. Right through the grill for 20-30 feet.

Also if you look at those suicide pictures of cars the engines are still pretty intact I think.

I think maybe the front air-bag didn't deploy because it was a side impact and the sensors for the front where not touched but the side air-bags seem to have deployed.

I wonder if this guy would have been better off if he had hit the tree directly?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Some speed is ok... but the idiots who think they're so good that they can drive 30% above the posted limits are dangerous... especially because they are too stupid to understand that the law of physics apply no matter how good you think you are. The human eyes and mind can only react so fast... the faster you go, the less time you have to react... depending upon the event and your speed you may get yourself killed no matter how great a driver you think you are... human beings have limits... and usually those limits are much closer than you think they are.
-Max

30% over the posted speed limit is nothing. I was was driving around in Germany last year and I was going well beyond a speed which would be posted on an equivalent US road. Everyone was. We were going about 80 mph, which is about what people go on US highways anyway, regardless of what the sign says. The only difference was that it was legal. Other than that, people are people.

On average, people will tend to drive a safe speed for the road regardless of what the posted speed limit is. On a nice, straight road like the NJ turnpike, people are going to go about 80 mph. If the speed limit is 70, they'll go 80. If it's 65, they'll go 80. If they reduce the speed limit to 55, they'll go 80.

It's idiots who go much faster than road conditions allow who get killed like this.

I don't need a sign to tell me how fast I should be going, since the sign remains the same regardless if it's a clear, sunny day or if the road is snow covered and it's night. Different conditions warrant a different speed.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Doboji

Some speed is ok... but the idiots who think they're so good that they can drive 30% above the posted limits are dangerous... especially because they are too stupid to understand that the law of physics apply no matter how good you think you are. The human eyes and mind can only react so fast... the faster you go, the less time you have to react... depending upon the event and your speed you may get yourself killed no matter how great a driver you think you are... human beings have limits... and usually those limits are much closer than you think they are.
-Max

30% over the posted speed limit is nothing. I was was driving around in Germany last year and I was going well beyond a speed which would be posted on an equivalent US road. Everyone was. We were going about 80 mph, which is about what people go on US highways anyway, regardless of what the sign says.

On average, people will tend to drive a safe speed for the road regardless of what the posted speed limit is. On a nice, straight road like the NJ turnpike, people are going to go about 80-85 mph. If the speed limit is 70, they'll go 80. If it's 65, they'll go 80. If they reduce the speed limit to 55, they'll go 80.

It's idiots who go much faster than road conditions allow who get killed like this.

I don't need a sign to tell me how fast I should be going, since the sign remains the same regardless if it's a clear, sunny day or if the road is snow covered and it's night. Different conditions warrant a different speed.

PA = 45mph construction zones = drive 25mph white-knuckle.