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Crash Testing: MINI Cooper vs Ford F150

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
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Ford has redesigned the F150 for 2004 with an notable advances with regards to safety. In fact the IIHS had named the new F150 a "Best Pick" in the large truck category. Now granted this doesn't change the fact that Ford designed and released the previous generation of F150s knowing there were safety concerns. Further it doesn't change any of the statistics showing larger vehicles cause more havoc on the roads. But it does show that Ford clearly understood the issues with the previous generation and worked hard to alleviate them.
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that is about as grudging an admission i've ever read.
 
Then I guess Ford straight up just sux ass! I myself am a Chevy man but I just didnt see why they would compare a heavy ass car and a very tiny car going head on into a wall at the same speed when it would seem obvious that with having more weight in the back would cause that to crumple the inside more.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: brtspears2
2004 F-150 crash test

Not bad.
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wow huge improvement over the previous model
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even more reason to choose truck for saftey.

it would rip through a mini like a welding torch through a soda can.
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Yes, let's all drive tanks, carry guns and wear bulletproof vests.

The world is scary!
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When all else fails, run it over 😉
 
That's not surprising.

I remember reading something about a reviewer from a major car magazine getting into an accident when she was in a Mini and she was so damn impressed.

I believe a huge tree fell on the car but she came out unscathed.
 
I don't see how someone could think the damage to the F150 is not bad. That's just pathetic, and trying to defend a company that is so incompetent wrt safety is just "ridicolous" (or whatever the ATOT spelling is).
 
Not surprised. In single vehicle accidents extra weight won't help you much. That f150 has a ton of metal pushing into the cab. Of course in a headon collision (the kind that I'm personally scared of, since I can control my driving more than somebody elses), the f150 would own that mini.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Not surprised. In single vehicle accidents extra weight won't help you much. That f150 has a ton of metal pushing into the cab. Of course in a headon collision (the kind that I'm personally scared of, since I can control my driving more than somebody elses), the f150 would own that mini.
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Thats exactly what I scared of. Thats the reason I havent got a motorcycle
 
Originally posted by: GreenGhost
I don't see how someone could think the damage to the F150 is not bad. That's just pathetic, and trying to defend a company that is so incompetent wrt safety is just "ridicolous" (or whatever the ATOT spelling is).
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These frontal offset tests by the IIHS are somewhat new, a little over a decade old. When the tests were first started, all manufacturers were unprepared for them and they all fared poorly. It's just an impact scenario that, while unfortunately somewhat common and severe, no one had thought to test and design for before. It was a real eye-opener.
In the OP's case, he is comparing an almost 10 year-old design that is no longer in production against a roughly 3 year-old design that is in production. In order to even pretend to be fair, you need to compare with Ford's latest design, which fared so well it rated a "Best Pick" from the IIHS.

If you don't understand that simple logic, then you are ridiculously stupid.
 
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Well the F-150 has a lot more weight than the MINI, it has to absorb alot more energy than the MINI upon the crash.
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maybe they should put some of that weight into not letting the passenger compartment crumple like tinfoil.
 
There is a big misconception on the safety of trucks/SUV's...many don't go through the same rigors as cars.

However hitting the wall in a crash test vs other cars is very different. That said, many trucks were/are known to be leg severers in an accident and also head impacters from the cab caving in.

It's still usually the car that loses.
 
Originally posted by: Xiety
didn't expect any better from Ford.

*puts on flamesuit*
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Before you say that, check out the results on the '04 Ford F150. They completely reversed the safety problems that were there in the '03's and earlier.

BTW, the Mini did better because it is a unibody car which is engineered to crush and absorb the impact better, all the while maintaining the safety cage of the passenger compartment.

The truck OTOH, is a full frame vehicle and that type of design's strong suit is it's rigidity. However, that doesn't help you in serious collisions.
 
Originally posted by: Vic

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These frontal offset tests by the IIHS are somewhat new, a little over a decade old. When the tests were first started, all manufacturers were unprepared for them and they all fared poorly. It's just an impact scenario that, while unfortunately somewhat common and severe, no one had thought to test and design for before. It was a real eye-opener.
In the OP's case, he is comparing an almost 10 year-old design that is no longer in production against a roughly 3 year-old design that is in production. In order to even pretend to be fair, you need to compare with Ford's latest design, which fared so well it rated a "Best Pick" from the IIHS.

If you don't understand that simple logic, then you are ridiculously stupid.
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You make good points, and I do understand your "simple logic," though I am probably "ridiculously stupid" in other areas of life.

I never meant my post as an anti-Ford or anti-pickup manifesto. Hell, my Dad has a 2000 F-150 that I really like, and I have never even sat in a Mini Cooper. I just thought it was an interesting and startling comparison. I didn't willfully choose the two vehicles to compare - the owner of the site did.

In the interest of accuracy, both vehicles ARE still in production - Ford calls this truck the "F-150 Heritage".
 
My comments weren't directed towards you, Don, but towards the poster who said that Ford was "incompetent".
 
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