crappy overclock on my x2 3800

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Zim

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Originally posted by: aldy402
wow this sucks,

1.37v - 240 - fine, never tested in prime for more then 10 minutes 47-48C full load
You need to take a reality check. How much better than 2.4GHz do you expect to get, and how much difference would it make to your life? Getting 20% improvement with only a marginal increase in voltage is money for nothing! That's a great OC. Be happy. I spent $500+ on my cpu and I'm not doing much better than you.

My own experience tends to suggest that with these X2's there is a threshold over which you have to apply a lot of voltage to get little gain. For me I could pump my up to 1.5v+ to get over 2.5GHz, but what would be the point when I can sit at 2.44GHz and be cool and stable. That extra bump ain't gonna buy me much of anything other than bragging rights and an overstressed cpu.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Zim
Originally posted by: aldy402
wow this sucks,

1.37v - 240 - fine, never tested in prime for more then 10 minutes 47-48C full load
You need to take a reality check. How much better than 2.4GHz do you expect to get, and how much difference would it make to your life? Getting 20% improvement with only a marginal increase in voltage is money for nothing! That's a great OC. Be happy. I spent $500+ on my cpu and I'm not doing much better than you.

My own experience tends to suggest that with these X2's there is a threshold over which you have to apply a lot of voltage to get little gain. For me I could pump my up to 1.5v+ to get over 2.5GHz, but what would be the point when I can sit at 2.44GHz and be cool and stable. That extra bump ain't gonna buy me much of anything other than bragging rights and an overstressed cpu.


He's just bitter because he got a bad batch. And as someone stated above, if you wanted a gaurentee'd oc'er why didnt u just post a WTB post? Anyhow, the 4400+ i heard doesnt like a very big overclock but ive seen some people take theres to like 2.8ghz with just a slight volt increase. As someone stated once again, its your luck of the draw. As for me, im loving my 3800+. The longest ive p95'd was 6 hours and it was stable at 2.8ghz. I can decode a 1 hour 41 xvid in ac3 to DVD format in just about 53 min on a single pass.
 

foodfightr

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Dude.... you need to post your RAM, MOTHERBOARD and POWER SUPPLY before you can even mention overclocking. If you get an X2 3800, I would expect to only hit 2640-2700 (If you're very lucky with a nice motherboard!) even with some nice aftermarket cooling additions. The world record for the X2 3800 is in the low to mid 3's and thats using phase/vapor cooling and isn't even stable.

 

Bull Dog

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Originally posted by: foodfightr
Dude.... you need to post your RAM, MOTHERBOARD and POWER SUPPLY before you can even mention overclocking. If you get an X2 3800, I would expect to only hit 2640-2700 (If you're very lucky with a nice motherboard!) even with some nice aftermarket cooling additions. The world record for the X2 3800 is in the low to mid 3's and thats using phase/vapor cooling and isn't even stable.


Originally posted by: Duvie
All this and he hasn't even listed the power supply, mobo, bios used.....

I agree sell it and quit wasting out time with whining....



Are you getting the message yet?
 

keitaro

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Some advice to the OP... since some are voicing their words quite strongly...

1) research
2) get to know your hardware
3) read that overclocking guide that's stickied
4) you get what you paid for (referring to your usage of stock heatsink)

If you believe that your overclock is less then par, then by all means get rid of it. In exchange, you should get the fastest mo-fo CPU out there. You were aiming to gain some additional speed. But you jumped into the pool without checking to see if there's water in there. Make sure you do your homework and then try to diagnose the problem there. If you haven't figured out the problem, post here to inquire using the other posters' suggestion and we'll try our best to help out.

I'm not one who specializes in overclocking a hardware to its absolute limit. But even I gained some decent boost in speed just from a modest change. And its success is all due to the fact that I read up on people's experiences, suggestions, and insights. Today's CPU isn't your typical Celeron 300A anymore. Voltages, HyperTransport, DRAM timings, clock timings, and RAM dividers, they're all going to make your head spin. But knowing them will help you learn and unravel some of the mysteries of A64 overclocking.
 

imported_maelstrom

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I seriously doubt it's your chip holding you back. I have an XP 3800@2.475 ghz with 1.432 vcore selected in the bios(doesn't actually show that low 1.44-1.47 fluctuation). It's prime stable for an hour atleast, XVid encoding stable for 6 hours. Maybe it's your mother board. BTW I'd like to know how to tell if my chip is a Manchester or Toledo. Does CPU-Z register the chip as a Toledo or do you go by revision number? I have a JH-E6.
 

x2plasma

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Originally posted by: maelstrom
I seriously doubt it's your chip holding you back. I have an XP 3800@2.475 ghz with 1.432 vcore selected in the bios(doesn't actually show that low 1.44-1.47 fluctuation). It's prime stable for an hour atleast, XVid encoding stable for 6 hours. Maybe it's your mother board. BTW I'd like to know how to tell if my chip is a Manchester or Toledo. Does CPU-Z register the chip as a Toledo or do you go by revision number? I have a JH-E6.



3800+ Mancheter - ADA3800BVBOX

3800+ Toledo - ADA3800CDBOX

My toledo doesn't OC very far but it is stable so I'm happy. Sure I'd like 2.6, but I can't get that without more volts and my MB is not very OC friendly. CPU-Z registers mine as Manchester btw, when in fact it is Toledo.
 

Leper Messiah

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I don't understand why you guys say manchesters suck for OCing when mine hits 2.5 at stock volts...

and OP you :confused: me. I guess youngin's these days are spoiled by the winchester/venice 40% OC's easy as pie, but that is not the norm. a 20% OC on stock cooling is damn good.
 

Leper Messiah

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I don't understand why you guys say manchesters suck for OCing when mine hits 2.5 at stock volts...

and OP you :confused: me. I guess youngin's these days are spoiled by the winchester/venice 40% OC's easy as pie, but that is not the norm. a 20% OC on stock cooling is damn good.
 

Leper Messiah

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I don't understand why you guys say manchesters suck for OCing when mine hits 2.5 at stock volts...

and OP you :confused: me. I guess youngin's these days are spoiled by the winchester/venice 40% OC's easy as pie, but that is not the norm. a 20% OC on stock cooling is damn good.
 

Leper Messiah

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I don't understand why you guys say manchesters suck for OCing when mine hits 2.5 at stock volts...

and OP you :confused: me. I guess youngin's these days are spoiled by the winchester/venice 40% OC's easy as pie, but that is not the norm. a 20% OC on stock cooling is damn good.
 

Leper Messiah

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I don't understand why you guys say manchesters suck for OCing when mine hits 2.5 at stock volts...

and OP you :confused: me. I guess youngin's these days are spoiled by the winchester/venice 40% OC's easy as pie, but that is not the norm. a 20% OC on stock cooling is damn good.
 

aigomorla

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rofl quadruple post. and i dont think manchester sucks. Correct me if im wrong but the highest oc'd X2 is a manchester and not toledo. but if u want to know what my toledo caps at stock its 2.6 at 1.35v and its quite stable and happy there. Why did i go 2.8 and a voltage increase of .11? because i have liquid cooling and its happy there too. i dont see that noticible of a temp increase hence there isnt much strain on the cpu.

Now if i wanted to go higher, i think i failed p95 after 10min at 2.9 and thats with 1.52V. My computer boots and goes into windows, i just fail p95. I think its my ram thats holding me back, i dont want to go on a divider lower then 5:6 because its pointless for me to go that low on my ram timings and increase my volts past safe point for +100mhz.

Anyhow i dont play much games on this thing, im into video editing. Hence why im in raid 5. But its funny to watch AVI2DVD use both cores and have my system cpu run at 100% :X