No reason to beat yourself up, but you do have to take responsibility. BTW, you are NOT responsible to make sure someone's kids get home. They can have their parent's make arrangements next time.
No reason to beat yourself up, but you do have to take responsibility. BTW, you are NOT responsible to make sure someone's kids get home. They can have their parent's make arrangements next time.
And if you could answer my question, Is there anything I can do to protest the points in court? Because any points will be sent to my insurance company (ive been insured only 2 months), and most likely I will get kicked off my policy if I can't get the points off my record...
I think graduated licensing is ok, but restrictions like that are counter-productive. If they would just raise the driving age to 18 already, these problems would cease to exist.
I believe in most states you can avoid getting points on your license by going to traffic school.
Oakenfold
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Well said.
I've gotten lots of tickets, I haven't contested one, I knew I was in the wrong, get over it and move on.
The main thing is to
LEARN from your mistakes, I haven't had a moving violation in 6 years.
My insurance company thanks me with lower rates.
What's to protest? You did something really dumb. We all have at one point, don't waste taxpayer's money by taking this to court.
This is a problem with this country, people do stuff, know it's wrong and want to find a way to get out of it..
johnjohn320
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How close were you following that you had to swerve to avoid the slowing car in front of you? Also, I don't understand the logic of speeding up to avoid a braking car...if I'm understanding you here...
dullard
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Ok now for some constructive thoughts from me. (I just had to post that above).
1) Don't speed. But as a rule of thumb you won't be pulled over for doing 0-4 mph over the limit. In fact in my home town the cops are forbidden to pull anyone over for speeding less than 5 mph. So use that as a strict rule if you must speed, keep it to under 4 mph. However I don't see why you must speed...
2) Is traffic school available in your state? If so you won't get points.
3) Actually go to your court date, if the cop doesn't show up you get off without a fine and without any points. This happens more often than you think.
1) Don't speed. But as a rule of thumb you won't be pulled over for doing 0-4 mph over the limit. In fact in my home town the cops are forbidden to pull anyone over for speeding less than 5 mph. So use that as a strict rule if you must speed, keep it to under 4 mph. However I don't see why you must speed...
2) Is traffic school available in your state? If so you won't get points.
3) Actually go to your court date, if the cop doesn't show up you get off without a fine and without any points. This happens more often than you think.
DrPizza
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Cop doesn't have to show up unless you plead not guilty, then a trial date is set, at which time, you hope the cop doesn't show up. But, don't waste my tax money... (when you start paying income tax and property tax and every other tax...) Just pay the fine, go to driving school.
btw, the non-related passenger restriction is good because inexperienced drivers are generally at those all so important social ages where they're much more easily distracted by their passengers. Interestingly, in your case, statistics show that male teens driving with female passengers are safer than male teens driving with male passengers. How ironic that your sister's friends included 2 males. Had they been females, you (statistically) probably would have been driving at a safer speed. Since there was 1 extra female, I'll bet this had a dampening affect on your speed and you would have been going 54 instead of 52. Therefore, you owe HER about 10 bucks.
Dude, don't listen to these jerks. You should really try it in court, what have you got to lose?
Jerks? Why should he try it in court? Oh yeah you are in the 10th grade and have no concept of law or reality. Come back when your testes drop.
go to court
the prosecutor will offer you something else but your fine will go up
and have your sister and friends pay for it... both ways
the prosecutor will offer you something else but your fine will go up
and have your sister and friends pay for it... both ways
Gotta hand it to you, PCMarine, way to take responsibility for your actions, and not try to pass the buck like the majority of society does.
Future looks bright.
Sounds like you are just pissed that you were trying to act cool with your sister's friend, and got embarassed. Take a look down beside the gas pedal, there is another one. It's called a brake. Try using that next time when someone is turning sharply in front of you, instead of the gas.
Future looks bright.
Sounds like you are just pissed that you were trying to act cool with your sister's friend, and got embarassed. Take a look down beside the gas pedal, there is another one. It's called a brake. Try using that next time when someone is turning sharply in front of you, instead of the gas.
Waitaminit... PCMarine was stupid and got busted, but that's no reason not to go to court and ask the judge for leniency and/or deferred adjudication, driver's ed, etc.
The law does allow that, and reality does too.
Only a maroon pays full price for a traffic ticket.
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Waitaminit... PCMarine was stupid and got busted, but that's no reason not to go to court and ask the judge for leniency and/or deferred adjudication, driver's ed, etc.
The law does allow that, and reality does too.
Only a maroon pays full price for a traffic ticket.
Only a moron gets a ticket and bitches about it. It is fine to go to court, but it is not fine to WASTE time when you know the judge and DA is not going to help much. They don't care about letting teens off with reduced fines for tickets. That might friend, is the reality. If he were an adult it would be a different ballgame and court would make since. As a restricted driver he is just wasting time.
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Waitaminit... PCMarine was stupid and got busted, but that's no reason not to go to court and ask the judge for leniency and/or deferred adjudication, driver's ed, etc.
The law does allow that, and reality does too.
Only a maroon pays full price for a traffic ticket.
Only a moron gets a ticket and bitches about it. It is fine to go to court, but it is not fine to WASTE time when you know the judge and DA is not going to help much. They don't care about letting teens off with reduced fines for tickets. That might friend, is the reality. If he were an adult it would be a different ballgame and court would make since. As a restricted driver he is just wasting time.
I don't know what reality you're living in, but I got out of several traffic tickets when I was a teen by asking the judge for deferred adjudication and defensive driving. The judge and DA were polite about it since they too know those are the rules of the game. (In Texas, a judge MUST allow you to take defensive driving and get the ticket off your record under some circumstances.)
Yes, only a moron gets a ticket (rightfully so) and bitches about it here. He deserved the ticket.
Many judges and DA's do, in fact, care about letting teens off. The judges I went before were actually quite helpful, leading teens into asking for deferred adjuducation so that he could grant it. (I dunno, maybe the judge isn't allowed to offer it if the defendant doesn't ask for it?)
I disagree: as a restricted driver he has more to lose from this than an adult driver, and therefore has more reason to fight it in court.
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Waitaminit... PCMarine was stupid and got busted, but that's no reason not to go to court and ask the judge for leniency and/or deferred adjudication, driver's ed, etc.
The law does allow that, and reality does too.
Only a maroon pays full price for a traffic ticket.
Only a moron gets a ticket and bitches about it. It is fine to go to court, but it is not fine to WASTE time when you know the judge and DA is not going to help much. They don't care about letting teens off with reduced fines for tickets. That might friend, is the reality. If he were an adult it would be a different ballgame and court would make since. As a restricted driver he is just wasting time.
I don't know what reality you're living in, but I got out of several traffic tickets when I was a teen by asking the judge for deferred adjudication and defensive driving. The judge and DA were polite about it since they too know those are the rules of the game. (In Texas, a judge MUST allow you to take defensive driving and get the ticket off your record under some circumstances.)
Yes, only a moron gets a ticket (rightfully so) and bitches about it here. He deserved the ticket.
Many judges and DA's do, in fact, care about letting teens off. The judges I went before were actually quite helpful, leading teens into asking for deferred adjuducation so that he could grant it. (I dunno, maybe the judge isn't allowed to offer it if the defendant doesn't ask for it?)
I disagree: as a restricted driver he has more to lose from this than an adult driver, and therefore has more reason to fight it in court.
You are misreading what I have to say. My contention is NOT that he has less to lose. My contention is that he will not get off easily. Texas is a driver's state. I have watched tons of message boards over the years and people from Texas always get off the easiest for ANY traffic violation. Those in the NE get hit the hardest. Reality is, Texas's lax ticket policy is uncommon in the US, especially for teens. Then again, this is about Wisconsin practices and neither of us live there.
WELL, an in-experienced driver are always mostly likely to get pulled over for insubordianation LMAO!!!
The friends were in your car while you were driving, and ya got caught.
Hold on, I'll call the waaaaaahhmbulance for ya!
Hold on, I'll call the waaaaaahhmbulance for ya!
narzy
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learn to say NO!
I do it all the time, its not hard. your car, your insurence, your decision, if your to weak then maybe your not responsable enough to drive in the first place, not that you would ever admit to that, I'm 17, I am a restricted driver, I know the ropes and I know my responsabilities.
now go to court, get your fine reduced, and points reduced / taken off, ask for driving school and STFU!.
now go to court, get your fine reduced, and points reduced / taken off, ask for driving school and STFU!.
johnjohn320
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I'd like you to explain how having a bunch of inexperienced 16 and 17 year old drivers on the road is worse than having a bunch of inexperienced 18 year old drivers on the road. Yeah, 18 year olds are better drivers, they've been doing it for 2 years....If we raise it to 18 people will say "well gee, 21 year olds are much better."
did you take drivers ed.?
can you still?
I did,and it saved me $$ on my insurance till i was 25 years old,and,I learned a Lot from the classes.
and i also was able to have a Full drivers license at 17 years age,when i passed my drivers test.
{ which i did first time i took it. }
good luck, that system bums, what state are you in/?
can you still?
I did,and it saved me $$ on my insurance till i was 25 years old,and,I learned a Lot from the classes.
and i also was able to have a Full drivers license at 17 years age,when i passed my drivers test.
{
which i did first time i took it. }good luck, that system bums, what state are you in/?
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