Crane vs Tree , Tree wins

[Modelworks]

Love the company name.



http://www.pressdemocrat.com/articl...349?Title=No-one-hurt-when-crane-splits-house

crane weighing more than 100,000 pounds toppled backward and sliced a Santa Rosa home nearly in half as workers attempted to remove a 150-year-old tree.

 

[MotF Bane]

Tree - 2
Crane - 0
House - 0

 

[darkxshade]

Destroyed by old "Reliable" :biggrin:

 

[rh71]

rendered!

 

[Rubycon]

Thank heavens no one was hurt!

Those crane operators crack me up. I get nervous sometimes as we get real close to them at certain ports. Those cranes make the "house wrecker" in the OP look TINY too!

 

[Crono]

They should have used Tiger-style

 

[marvdmartian]

Angle of the boom on that crane was too low, for the weight they were lifting and the distance the trunk was away from the crane. Wouldn't surprise me if the words, "Let's see if it works" were heard before it tipped.

 

[olds]

Santa Rosa is not that far from BoomerD who just got a job......

 

[TheVrolok]

Heh. Physics fail.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Imagine getting home from work wondering if the contractor is done removing your tree, and you see THAT. lmao.

Oh and where I live, they usually use chain saws to remove trees. Sometimes ropes to make it go a certain direction. Much safer. Start from the top and work your way down. Sometimes a chipper is brought on site, though I would like to assume the big lumber is kept as it would be a waste, but not sure what they do with it.

 

[wiredspider]

I hope they had insurance for that.

 

[lxskllr]

Oh and where I live, they usually use chain saws to remove trees. Sometimes ropes to make it go a certain direction. Much safer. Start from the top and work your way down. Sometimes a chipper is brought on site, though I would like to assume the big lumber is kept as it would be a waste, but not sure what they do with it.

Yea, I'm wondering exactly what they were doing. Chainsaws and a trackhoe would have been more appropriate imo.

 

[skyking]

They were trying to remove the tree live and plant it elsewhere. The tree is an unknown weight so the picking charts do you no good. You would need working load limiting equipment, and also heed the warning.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So, at what point after the rear tires came off the ground did the operator say to himself, "It'll give, I'll just keep lifting."

 

[Red Squirrel]

They were trying to remove the tree live and plant it elsewhere. The tree is an unknown weight so the picking charts do you no good. You would need working load limiting equipment, and also heed the warning.

Oh I see. Figured this was not even worth trying with a tree that size. Ok, maybe I'm right, given the result. The roots probably go as deep and spread out as much as the tree is tall.

 

[Malak]

Oh and where I live, they usually use chain saws to remove trees. Sometimes ropes to make it go a certain direction. Much safer. Start from the top and work your way down. Sometimes a chipper is brought on site, though I would like to assume the big lumber is kept as it would be a waste, but not sure what they do with it.

I just had a tree brought down from in between my house and a building next door. That's how they brought my tree down, straight where they wanted it. It was tall, old, and decaying. I was anxiously watching from a cafe across the street. Sure glad they didn't bring a crane in lol!

 

[compman25]

Good thing Reliable has insurance. Sucks they're our clients.

 

[BoomerD]

Santa Rosa is not that far from BoomerD who just got a job......

ROFL!! You're closer to Santa Rosa than I am...and I no longer work with heavy equipment...

That pic is funny as hell to me for a couple of reasons.

First, I've worked for Reliable Crane Service a few times. Didn't like them much, never stuck around.

Next, I was the crane operator for a company that also had a tree service in San Rafael...trees are notoriously heavy...and usually weigh MUCH more than they are estimated to weigh.
I almost lost a crane into an apartment complex while taking down some trees. I had to reach over the top of the building, much like the guy in that picture...and when the tree trimmers cut a piece of the trunk...they cut a piece WAY too heavy for the crane's capacity at the radius I was working and with the boom length and jib combination I had to have to make the reach. (this crane was quite a bit smaller than the one in the pic...22 tons IIRC.) Once I had a strain on the load, they finished cutting the tree trunk...and it was too late to do anything to avoid the impending wreck.
I could feel the front of the crane coming off the ground as I kept booming the load up and to me, reducing the radius as fast as I could. <phew> When I got the log down on the ground, I called the tree trimmer out of the tree, and we......had a few choice words...that was his last day on the job.

 

[SooperDave]

ROFL!! You're closer to Santa Rosa than I am...and I no longer work with heavy equipment...

That pic is funny as hell to me for a couple of reasons.

First, I've worked for Reliable Crane Service a few times. Didn't like them much, never stuck around.

Next, I was the crane operator for a company that also had a tree service in San Rafael...trees are notoriously heavy...and usually weigh MUCH more than they are estimated to weigh.
I almost lost a crane into an apartment complex while taking down some trees. I had to reach over the top of the building, much like the guy in that picture...and when the tree trimmers cut a piece of the trunk...they cut a piece WAY too heavy for the crane's capacity at the radius I was working and with the boom length and jib combination I had to have to make the reach. (this crane was quite a bit smaller than the one in the pic...22 tons IIRC.) Once I had a strain on the load, they finished cutting the tree trunk...and it was too late to do anything to avoid the impending wreck.
I could feel the front of the crane coming off the ground as I kept booming the load up and to me, reducing the radius as fast as I could. <phew> When I got the log down on the ground, I called the tree trimmer out of the tree, and we......had a few choice words...that was his last day on the job.

No LMI?

 

[BoomerD]

No LMI?

LOL! IIRC, the crane had LMI, but it was set to warning only...not lockout.

Besides, once the tree was cut, I was stuck with the load. No place to go but up...and towards me to reduce the radius....quickly.

I was in the business for a LONG time...I remember getting hoisted (and hoisting others) on the headache ball, riding loads, tieing bulldozers to the front of cranes to reduce tipping... it might not tip...but it dammed sure might break!

IMO, too many people depend on the LMI to keep them out of trouble...then get fucked when the LMI fails...
Know the load, know the radius and boom angle, and perhaps most important of all, know the crane.

 

[dawp]

They were trying to remove the tree live and plant it elsewhere. The tree is an unknown weight so the picking charts do you no good. You would need working load limiting equipment, and also heed the warning.

I'm not too sure about that considering this:

The couple moved into the house in August, and an arborist had strongly recommended they have the aging and sick tree removed for safety, Kevin McCarthy said.

 

[Sea Moose]

Poor house, got pwned. Would make it worse if the crane destroyed their copy of cod 6.

 

[bignateyk]

Wow. I just had a 100 foot crane come to my house a couple weeks ago to remove a huge oak tree (at least 4 feet in diameter). There were onlookers from the whole street. Glad this didn't happen to us.

 

[dawp]

you can bet they're gonna get a new house mortgage free out of this. at least that's what I would do.

they may not feel this way right now, but this is probably the best thing that could have happened to them.

 

[BW86]

wow, hope nobody was in that house