CR-V versus RAV4

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
You may also want to check out the domestics:

I found the Rav 4 interior horrible and their idea off leather was a saran wrap thick sheet of plastic coated hide. Hard plastics were everywhere.

Ford Escape/Mariner - Optional 240HP V6

Chevy Equinox/Pontaic Torrent - Big discounts as an all new Equinox will be released in Sept. and Pontiac is folding - Standard motor is a V6 is 185HP with lots of TQ with an optional 265HP engine. Rear leg-room is enormous.

Suzuki XL7 - this a stretched Chevy Equinox and comes standard with a GM 252HP V6 + 10yr warranty


You may also want to check out the Forester by Subaru.

nah sorry dude, those can't compete with the top two best sellers in the compact SUV market: the CR-V and the Rav4.
hard plastics? hmm the escape and equinox dashes are plastic iirc. better hard than soft plastic.

Make up your minds...
Import guys complain about hard plastic in a domestic, saying soft is nicer. So you get a soft plastic in a domestic and now hard is better? Seriously.....

 

[BigSmooth]

When I was looking about a year and a half ago, I liked both, but I liked the RAV4 a bit better. The CR-V just felt really underpowered, and I like the RAV4's use of space more, particularly in the cargo area where there were some useful features not present in the Honda. The one thing I didn't like about the RAV4 was the swing-out rear door, which makes no sense to me.

I have to add another rec to check out the Forester, though, Subarus in general are exceptionally reliable and safe and the new Forester has gotten great reviews.

Definitely look at hatchbacks (and wagons if you like them) as well. The 3 is great and there are a number of other solid options out there.

 

[MovingTarget]

Personally, I like the CR-V better. However, it seems that your needs are better suited to a small wagon than an suv/crossover.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Carbo

I will chime in on one issue that someone mentioned in error: The CR-V does NOT have a timing belt. It uses a timing CHAIN. That means you don't have the dreaded $800 timing belt job to worry about.

I wasn't aware of that. Another plus for the CR-V.

And one last point: Given your needs for a vehicle, why do you want an SUV or crossover? Something like a Mazda3 5-door hatch would probably be better suited to your needs and would be less dorky... something to think about.

I took a look at the Mazda 3 yesterday on their website. Nice looking set of wheels and one I am considering. Never had or drove a Mazda before. But I have always heard good things about them.

too bad about that giant wide mouth grill.. ugh. It's a little better on the darker colors. But it's fun to drive. suspension is a little stiffer than most (IMO, barely, if any; to some female friends who cross shopped it, they couldn't get past the ride, but like it otherwise).

 

[ballmode]

Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

 

[Carbo]

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

The CR-V doesn't offer a six cylinder, which is one of my concerns.
But thinking about it, my Civic has 127 hp, so maybe the 166 the CR-V offers will feel like a Maserati.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

 

[kalrith]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Higher sales don't prove that it's a better product. Subaru sells many fewer Foresters than Honda sells CR-Vs, but that doesn't mean that the CR-V is leaps and bounds better than the Forester. I'd actually give the nod to the Forester, but I'd have to test drive them back to back to get a better comparison.

We see this with other vehicles as well. For example, the Pontiac G8 didn't sell very well even though it's a great vehicle for the price. We see this with a lot of American cars. The Fusion would likely sell much better if it had the words "Honda Accord" on it.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Cause of Fanyboy trolls like you that buy based on name and not product.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Cause of Fanyboy trolls like you that buy based on name and not product.

no i buy based resale value, reputation, my own personal experience, new usable technology.
are those valid reasons to buy? are you seriously defending the nub who just compared 1 engine to a non-existing one and said that one of them is better? dont be stupid.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

http://www.newsday.com/classif...o-suvs,0,4952384.story
http://autos.aol.com/gallery/best-selling-trucks-suvs#

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Higher sales don't prove that it's a better product. Subaru sells many fewer Foresters than Honda sells CR-Vs, but that doesn't mean that the CR-V is leaps and bounds better than the Forester. I'd actually give the nod to the Forester, but I'd have to test drive them back to back to get a better comparison.

We see this with other vehicles as well. For example, the Pontiac G8 didn't sell very well even though it's a great vehicle for the price. We see this with a lot of American cars. The Fusion would likely sell much better if it had the words "Honda Accord" on it.

orly, wheres the numbers that show it comparing it to its competitive market? your OPINION doesn't really matter here.
the cr-v is among the BEST selling SUV's in the market. isn't that what subaru is trying to do w/ the forester or any vehicle): sell as many as they could? well if that is their goal, then they're losing to honda in the compact-suv market.

http://www.newsday.com/classif...o-suvs,0,4952384.story
http://autos.aol.com/gallery/best-selling-trucks-suvs#

 

[kalrith]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Higher sales don't prove that it's a better product. Subaru sells many fewer Foresters than Honda sells CR-Vs, but that doesn't mean that the CR-V is leaps and bounds better than the Forester. I'd actually give the nod to the Forester, but I'd have to test drive them back to back to get a better comparison.

We see this with other vehicles as well. For example, the Pontiac G8 didn't sell very well even though it's a great vehicle for the price. We see this with a lot of American cars. The Fusion would likely sell much better if it had the words "Honda Accord" on it.

orly, wheres the numbers that show it comparing it to its competitive market? your OPINION doesn't really matter here.
the cr-v is among the BEST selling SUV's in the market. isn't that what subaru is trying to do w/ the forester or any vehicle): sell as many as they could? well if that is their goal, then they're losing to honda in the compact-suv market.

http://www.newsday.com/classif...o-suvs,0,4952384.story
http://autos.aol.com/gallery/best-selling-trucks-suvs#

Of course, you must be right! Whatever sells the most products in its given market is automatically the best product. I guess that means that Vizio produces the best LCD TVs (source). I'm going to go amend all my posts in the AV forums and change all my recommendations for people to buy Vizio LCDs. If they sell the most LCD TVs, then they ABSOLUTELY MUST be producing the BEST TVs.

I think that everyone in this thread other than LOUISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS realizes that number of sales do not prove the worth of a product.

Edit: And anyone who knows anything about business knows that the goal of every business is not to sell the most products; it's to make the most profit. These are not one and the same. If they were, then GM and Chrysler would be doing WAY, WAY better than Subaru right now, but obviously that's not the case.

 

[Norton360]

high sales is the main factor for evaluating a car, Please remember, most of the buyers of CR-V made this decision after lots of thoughtful research and test-drive. otherwise, I think, most of the buyers will be stubburn like you with a thought of high sale dose not mean good value.

I just bought a Cr-v ex, after looking around and test drive some SUVs for a month, including RAV4. I think, Cr-v wins hands down, it is the most fashioned and stylish car, plus driving smoothly and comfortable. it is a car of refinement and detailed design and best overall considerations. The only minus is the slow acceleration when you are hurry to go.

Please test drive the Cr-v. I am pretty sure you will love this car instantly.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Higher sales don't prove that it's a better product. Subaru sells many fewer Foresters than Honda sells CR-Vs, but that doesn't mean that the CR-V is leaps and bounds better than the Forester. I'd actually give the nod to the Forester, but I'd have to test drive them back to back to get a better comparison.

We see this with other vehicles as well. For example, the Pontiac G8 didn't sell very well even though it's a great vehicle for the price. We see this with a lot of American cars. The Fusion would likely sell much better if it had the words "Honda Accord" on it.

orly, wheres the numbers that show it comparing it to its competitive market? your OPINION doesn't really matter here.
the cr-v is among the BEST selling SUV's in the market. isn't that what subaru is trying to do w/ the forester or any vehicle): sell as many as they could? well if that is their goal, then they're losing to honda in the compact-suv market.

http://www.newsday.com/classif...o-suvs,0,4952384.story
http://autos.aol.com/gallery/best-selling-trucks-suvs#

Of course, you must be right! Whatever sells the most products in its given market is automatically the best product. I guess that means that Vizio produces the best LCD TVs (source). I'm going to go amend all my posts in the AV forums and change all my recommendations for people to buy Vizio LCDs. If they sell the most LCD TVs, then they ABSOLUTELY MUST be producing the BEST TVs.

I think that everyone in this thread other than LOUISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS realizes that number of sales do not prove the worth of a product.

Edit: And anyone who knows anything about business knows that the goal of every business is not to sell the most products; it's to make the most profit. These are not one and the same. If they were, then GM and Chrysler would be doing WAY, WAY better than Subaru right now, but obviously that's not the case.

minus all your idiotic sarcasm, learn to read. i said best selling in-class. if the vizio TV you're talking about is the best selling ~$650 TV or ~37"TV then yea it may just be the best in its class, whichever it may be. the CR-V as stated (once again for the morons) is the best selling compact SUV in its class, which is the "COMPACT SUV CLASS" (morons listen up)

obviously the purpose of the firm is to maximize profit, but how do you get that? TR-TC. obviously it isn't easy for us to figure out TC so we will NOT be able to find profit. we can only find the revenue which is directly related to the number of vehicles sold by the firm.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: kalrith

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: ballmode
Rav 4 has a better AWD system.

The new V6 rav 4 is way better than the V6 in the Crv

^^ obviously a nub, there is no v6 in the CR-V. so what are you comparing it to?
OP, ever wonder why the cr-v outsells every other compact SUV in the market by a huge margin?????????

Higher sales don't prove that it's a better product. Subaru sells many fewer Foresters than Honda sells CR-Vs, but that doesn't mean that the CR-V is leaps and bounds better than the Forester. I'd actually give the nod to the Forester, but I'd have to test drive them back to back to get a better comparison.

We see this with other vehicles as well. For example, the Pontiac G8 didn't sell very well even though it's a great vehicle for the price. We see this with a lot of American cars. The Fusion would likely sell much better if it had the words "Honda Accord" on it.

orly, wheres the numbers that show it comparing it to its competitive market? your OPINION doesn't really matter here.
the cr-v is among the BEST selling SUV's in the market. isn't that what subaru is trying to do w/ the forester or any vehicle): sell as many as they could? well if that is their goal, then they're losing to honda in the compact-suv market.

http://www.newsday.com/classif...o-suvs,0,4952384.story
http://autos.aol.com/gallery/best-selling-trucks-suvs#

Subaru sells every single Forester they build, their sales numbers are not limited by competition or relative value of other compact SUVs, it's limited by Subaru's production capacity.

 

[exar333]

Hello sheeple.

Maybe some people don't want to buy what everyone else has? Sales DO NOT EUQAL quality! Only a fool believes this.

Is a Fossil watch better quality than Rolex because it sells more units? No. Companies sell for profit. Some companies sell 1,000,000 items for $1 profit each, while another sells 1,000 items for $1000 profit each. Neither is superior to the other.

Honda has good quality, but it hasn't gotten any better in the last decade, if anything, it is flatlined or slid slightly. Many other companies have improved their quality and are close to what Honda can do (Ford is a good example).

The OP probably doesn't care about resale value as he intends to keep the car for the long-haul. Quality and longevity should be the key concerns here.

I think the RAV4 interior is nicer and better quality than the CR-V, but I much prefer driving the CR-V. I would say to get the 4-cyl version of the CR-V unless you really need the extra power. The reliability will be good, and the mileage will be even better. Enjoy.

 

[theeedude]

Between these two, I'd pick the CR-V. My friend's grandma got one, and she loves it.

 

[Norton360]

Louis has made it quite clear, that is, sales is the direct reflection of a product's value or quality compared competators in their similar price range.

it makes no sense and is a quite stupid logic to compare the quality or value of a $150 Fossil watch with a $2500 Rolex watch, even if the former have a sale 10000 times more than the later. your comparision is more like comparing apple and peach and try to get conclusion which is more tasty like apple.

high sales equals quality or value of a produce in its price range. period.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

minus all your idiotic sarcasm, learn to read. i said best selling in-class. if the vizio TV you're talking about is the best selling ~$650 TV or ~37"TV then yea it may just be the best in its class, whichever it may be. the CR-V as stated (once again for the morons) is the best selling compact SUV in its class, which is the "COMPACT SUV CLASS" (morons listen up)

obviously the purpose of the firm is to maximize profit, but how do you get that? TR-TC. obviously it isn't easy for us to figure out TC so we will NOT be able to find profit. we can only find TR which is directly related to the number of vehicles sold by the firm.

Originally posted by: Norton360

high sales equals quality or value of a produce in its price range. period.

hmm those sound of similar, are you copying me?

as i said before, the cr-v IS the BEST SELLER IN ITS CLASS, which is a damned good determining factor of which car is better in general. it is a very good predictor of the better car in "the market" (the compact suv market)

are you guys all crying again and making excuses that the #1 selling vehicle in the class doesn't make it a damned good car? can't say "best" here b/c best is different for everyone's needs, but it is the "best" for all those people who purchased one and made it the #1 seller.

 

[IEC]

Parents have owned a CR-V for five years. No real complaints about it, it's done everything from hauling groceries to hauling a trailer with a piano in it 1000 miles. It has also been rear-ended twice at ~25 mph with little to no damage. When it was rear-ended by a compact car @ 55 mph the bumper was slightly damaged and the muffler had to be repaired, but the compact car was totaled.

Summary: Reliable and tough.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
The 4cyl will be weak. My wife had the older smaller Rav-4 and that thing was SLOW!!! My BiL has a CR-V and it is not that quick.

Both are ok but you really need to test drive to see which will work for you. Zthey are to close IMO.


Also I would look at the Chevrolet Equinox. It has a 6cyl and is actually pretty nice compared to the Rav-4 and CRV.

He said he needed something he can keep using for along time, and is reliable.


imo I would stick to Toyota and Honda which both have records of lasting forever were as Chevy does not.

You can also look at a Subaru Forester, Subaru are also known to last long.

Good luck


Edit: http://www.jdpower.com/autos check this site for more info, reliability rating and more there.

 

[evident]

crvs got 166 hp. uses the k24a8 engine i think, or a variant of it

 

[Strk]

CR-V

I just don't think Toyota's reputation is justified.

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: Carbo
Louisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, no question about Honda's reliability. As one who owns a Civic for 12 trouble free years, I'm a fan.
But I'm reading that the CR-V is underpowered. The 4 cylinder only cranks out 166HP, while pulling almost 3,600 pounds. This has me concerned.

eh quit complaining, look at the 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser weighing in a 4800lbs and a 155hp engine!