CPU For GTX 1070 / 1080 ?

[rainydayfund]

Hi Everyone!

I'm not a technical person.

Please suggest which CPU should be bought with GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 in order to play modern games ? (My first build)

My monitor is 1080p and 60hertz.

thanks for your feedback / suggestions

 

[Arachnotronic]

What is your budget and how long do you hope to keep your system? If you can afford it, the Core i7-8700K is the best gaming CPU on the market and will last you a very long time.

 

[rainydayfund]

Its $1200 , for cpu+gpu+mobo+cooler+ram

 

[Arachnotronic]

Its $1200 , for cpu+gpu+mobo+cooler+ram

GTX 1070 Ti will run you about $600 (assuming you're buying in the U.S.), so that leaves you $600 for the rest.

I'd recommend a Core i7 8700 (non-K) for you, then unless you can stretch your budget about $40 more for the Core i7 8700K. You can get 16GB of DDR4 for around $190, a cheap Z370 board for $100, and the 8700 for $300. 8700K is about $340.

 

[rainydayfund]

GTX 1070 Ti will run you about $600 (assuming you're buying in the U.S.), so that leaves you $600 for the rest.

I'd recommend a Core i7 8700 (non-K) for you, then unless you can stretch your budget about $40 more for the Core i7 8700K. You can get 16GB of DDR4 for around $190, a cheap Z370 board for $100, and the 8700 for $300. 8700K is about $340.

thanks for your suggestion.

i think i should go with 8700.

Could you help with air cooler , PSU and mobo ? Would MSI mortar would be good ?

thanks again

 

[rainydayfund]

Also like ryzen do i need to buy very fast RAM ? or is there any speed level till where i would be good play most modern games ?

 

[Arachnotronic]

thanks for your suggestion.

i think i should go with 8700.

Could you help with air cooler , PSU and mobo ? Would MSI mortar would be good ?

thanks again

8700 comes with its own cooler, so there's no need to buy an additional cooler. For PSU, I've got one of these in one of my systems and it works really well: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4&cm_re=evga_650w_gold-_-17-438-094-_-Product

As far as the motherboard goes, if you can get this one, you should be good to go: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157790&cm_re=z370-_-13-157-790-_-Product

It has really good user reviews and it's a good value.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Also like ryzen do i need to buy very fast RAM ? or is there any speed level till where i would be good play most modern games ?

Nope, Intel CPUs are far less sensitive to RAM speed than Ryzen chips are. Go with a decent DDR4-2666 kit and you should be all set.

 

[Glo.]

Core i5 8400. No difference between this and Core i7 8700.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Core i5 8400. No difference between this and Core i7 8700.

Core i5 8400 is a good value, too.

 

[Indus]

I have the GTX 1070 and I went with Ryzen 5 1600 with an AsRock board and 32 GB of Gskill RAM.

No regrets.

I game at 2560 x 1440 (more intensive than your 1080p) and I get 180-200 fps in everything but PUBG is more like 100-120 fps.

 

[Smoove910]

+1 for Ryzen. The Ryzen 5 1600 (non-x) can be had for around $175.

$175 - Processor
$125 - Motherboard
$200 - 16gb 3000mhz Corsair

I have the Ryzen 5 1600 and the Ryzen 7 1700 (both non x) and I have no regrets with either. In fact, the 6 core feels more responsive than my 8 core. You choice, but I'd definitely go AMD

 

[IRobot23]

Core i5 8400. No difference between this and Core i7 8700.

There is a difference.

Anyway, I would go with Ryzen 2.

 

[wilds]

At 60hz, it will be impossible to tell the difference between AMD and Intel.

 

[Shmee]

^ Hmm a good point, that when playing only at 1080p 60Hz, may be wise to spend some of the money on getting a nice SSD or something. You don't need a super high end CPU or GPU for the most part.

 

[IRobot23]

At 60hz, it will be impossible to tell the difference between AMD and Intel.

Ryzen can easily do 144Hz with some OC and good DRAm timings

 

[wilds]

Ryzen can easily do 144Hz with some OC and good DRAm timings

Absolutely. The only game I play on my 180hz is R6 Siege, and the R7 1700 with 3200 MHz CL14 DDR4 performs far faster than my old current i7.

 

[epsilon84]

Ryzen can easily do 144Hz with some OC and good DRAm timings

Not true for all games, and this is why I dislike blanket statements like this. Sure *some* games may run at 144fps, but its not a guarantee. This applies for both AMD and Intel, so don't think of this as Ryzen hating, I'm just trying to bring some level of realistic expectations back into this thread. Ryzen definitely won't hit 144fps on AC:O, or PUBG, or BF1, not even a 8700K @ 5GHz will do 144fps in those games.

What about the latest AAA title, Far Cry 5? Nope, won't do 144fps there either:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/far-cry-5-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,8.html

To the OP, I would suggest either a Ryzen 2600 (wait for launch reviews to confirm performance) or i5 8400 if your CPU budget is around $200 or less. If you can afford an i7 8700, then do so, you won't notice it today on your 60Hz panel but if you ever do upgrade to a higher Hz panel (or upgrade your GPU in future) you will start seeing a difference between it and the cheaper CPUs.

 

[AtenRa]

Not true for all games, and this is why I dislike blanket statements like this. Sure *some* games may run at 144fps, but its not a guarantee. This applies for both AMD and Intel, so don't think of this as Ryzen hating, I'm just trying to bring some level of realistic expectations back into this thread. Ryzen definitely won't hit 144fps on AC:O, or PUBG, or BF1, not even a 8700K @ 5GHz will do 144fps in those games.

What about the latest AAA title, Far Cry 5? Nope, won't do 144fps there either:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/far-cry-5-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,8.html

To the OP, I would suggest either a Ryzen 2600 (wait for launch reviews to confirm performance) or i5 8400 if your CPU budget is around $200 or less. If you can afford an i7 8700, then do so, you won't notice it today on your 60Hz panel but if you ever do upgrade to a higher Hz panel (or upgrade your GPU in future) you will start seeing a difference between it and the cheaper CPUs.

You can play any game you like at 144Hz with those CPUs. It just depends on your GPU and the Game IQ settings.

 

[epsilon84]

You can play any game you like at 144Hz with those CPUs. It just depends on your GPU and the Game IQ settings.

Not true at all, turn down settings on PUBG or BF1 to minimum, you still won't get 144fps, period. I can confirm this because I actually play these games, albeit on my 6700K @ 4.7GHz, which should be at least the equal of any Ryzen or stock CFL i5 for gaming. Some games are either poorly optimised, or are just too taxing on the CPU, to be able to hit such fps numbers.

 

[AtenRa]

Not true at all, turn down settings on PUBG or BF1 to minimum, you still won't get 144fps, period. I can confirm this because I actually play these games, albeit on my 6700K @ 4.7GHz, which should be at least the equal of any Ryzen or stock CFL i5 for gaming. Some games are either poorly optimised, or are just too taxing on the CPU, to be able to hit such fps numbers.

OK perhaps there are a few games like PUBG that you cannot play them at 144fps, but you can with the vast majority of games.

BF1 at 144fps can be done easily.

 

[wilds]

Getting stable 144hz in Far Cry 5, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Assassins Creed, and Watch_Dogs is a nightmare for any CPU.

These games are a lot better just for plain 4k60. I only play 144hz+ in competitive games.

 

[IRobot23]

Getting stable 30fps in GW2 is a nightmare for i7 8700k. So I declare that there is no cpu that are 60hz capable.

epsilon is just an intel user. Yes i7 8700k is faster. When you put LLC RAM and 3200MHz+ on ryzen you gonna see difference between 15-25% at max. That means its either 100fps or 115. In my case it would be like 25 vs 28 fps. Al thought I don't believe that i7 8700 could beat ryzen in GW2 I am getting 50-100% boost over i7 3770. Yeah that CPU droped below 14-15fps where ryzen still keeps it at 27-30fps. Weird.

 

[epsilon84]

Getting stable 30fps in GW2 is a nightmare for i7 8700k. So I declare that there is no cpu that are 60hz capable.

epsilon is just an intel user. Yes i7 8700k is faster. When you put LLC RAM and 3200MHz+ on ryzen you gonna see difference between 15-25% at max. That means its either 100fps or 115. In my case it would be like 25 vs 28 fps. Al thought I don't believe that i7 8700 could beat ryzen in GW2 I am getting 50-100% boost over i7 3770. Yeah that CPU droped below 14-15fps where ryzen still keeps it at 27-30fps. Weird.

I'm just an Intel user? What does that even mean? Whether I run AMD or Intel has no relevance in this discussion.

I'm not the one that is going around saying Ryzen will run at 144fps in every game. No current CPU is capable of doing that, AMD or Intel, period. Intel gets the higher framerates overall though, so if your goal is to max out a 144Hz display, then generally Intel is the better choice at the same pricepoint (ie. i5 8400 vs Ryzen 1600, or i7 8700 vs 1800X)

 

[VirtualLarry]

epsilon is just an intel user.

While some of us may have preferences for one CPU vendor over another, please keep the discussion on the technology at hand, and refrain from using "fanboy" type comments, and unnecessary flaming/baiting.
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