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DjTony90

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Hello... i wanna BUY a CPU to have MORE FPS in handbrake, if nobody know it... it is a program that convert VIDEOS from TS to MKV etc...

i use it every day for my captures that i upload in a tracker :)

i currently have i7 960 and i am near 200-220 FPS...

Handbrake works ALL 8 cores i got... hYper threading ENABLED...

i was thinking for upgrade my CPU and Motherboard if needed...

i was thinking for 1155 socket and i7 3770K OR AMD FX 8350 ??

Which one will go higher in O/C ????/

AMD is 8 cores and 3770K is 4 cores... which one will be faster in multi core applications ?

And what about TEMPERATURES ? in high load always.. which one will be cooler ? i have corsair hydro cooling H100
 
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Yes, it does appear that the i7 3770k is ~6% faster than the FX 8350, and only costs ~65% more. Of course you also have the extra power the FX 8350 uses, which means the i7 3770k will be cheaper after ~2 years of non-stop, 24/7 encoding.

As for overclocking, they should overclock to ~4.5GHz each, which means the i7 will extend it's lead over the FX 8350 a little more due to it's higher percentage overclock.
 
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Is it possible to offload your workload to a GPU with handbrake or another piece of software that does the same thing?
 
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2is

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Puppies04 said:
Is it possible to offload your workload to a GPU with handbrake or another piece of software that does the same thing?
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Not with handbrake, and most others that do use hardware acceleration aren't as versitile as handbrake. It's also been shown that if video output quality is what you're after, nothing beats old fashioned CPU encoding. Not AMD GPUs, not nvidia and not intel Quicksync.

Anyway, back to the OP. I have a 3770k and have been using handbrake a lot lately, temps are fine.
 
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last year there was some test version of handbrake with opencl support, AMD used to show their APU performance, and it was quite good, but this was 6 months ago I think, and I haven't seen anything related to handbrake opencl support since...
 
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2is

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SPBHM said:
last year there was some test version of handbrake with opencl support, AMD used to show their APU performance, and it was quite good, but this was 6 months ago I think, and I haven't seen anything related to handbrake opencl support since...
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From their FAQ:

Why doesn't HandBrake use Grand Central Dispatch or OpenCL?
First off, HandBrake is cross-platform. Until GCD's library is a standard component in Linux distributions, and OpenCL SDKs stabilize, these features are mostly limited to OS X.
Second, HandBrake is already fully multithreaded. While Grand Central makes it easy to thread an app that runs on a single CPU, it has no real benefit for an app that was already threaded, the hard way.
Third, OpenCL's benefits are limited for dealing with video. Unless every single step of the encoding process happens on the GPU, data must constantly be shuffled from the host's RAM to the video card's RAM, and them from the global VRAM to the local and private VRAM, and then back the other way after it's been processed. This goes over the PCI bus, and is a huge bottleneck for the encoding process.
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SPBHM

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2is said:
From their FAQ:
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5835/testing-opencl-accelerated-handbrakex264-with-amds-trinity-apu
 
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2is

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Hmmm... Either the faq hasn't been updated or the project has been abandoned/delayed.
 
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2is

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unless.... the current build has OpenCL support but only accessable from CLI?
 
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DjTony90

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guys... i dont care for the 150$ more... i need the MAX FPS i can get from theese 2 cpu... i speak always with MAX OVERCLOCK... so which one will take MORE O/C and have more FPS ?
 
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Actually a 2011 processor with 6 cores will be even faster for handbrake. A 3930k despite its cost is going to do better for video encoding than a quad core.
 
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Idontcare

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DjTony90 said:
guys... i dont care for the 150$ more... i need the MAX FPS i can get from theese 2 cpu... i speak always with MAX OVERCLOCK... so which one will take MORE O/C and have more FPS ?
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No question you will get higher FPS from the Intel processors discussed in this thread. Be it the quad+HT of 3770K or the hex+HT of the 3930k.

At stock or OC'ed, the 8350 won't come close to either of them which is why it is is priced much much lower than either of those two processors.

In the end, if price/performance is not the concern then price alone is going to be a decent proxy for you to use as a guide for ranking absolute performance.
 
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DjTony90

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Idontcare said:
No question you will get higher FPS from the Intel processors discussed in this thread. Be it the quad+HT of 3770K or the hex+HT of the 3930k.

At stock or OC'ed, the 8350 won't come close to either of them which is why it is is priced much much lower than either of those two processors.

In the end, if price/performance is not the concern then price alone is going to be a decent proxy for you to use as a guide for ranking absolute performance.
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So u are saying that 3770K overclocked will be much much better than 8350 ?
 
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Ivy Bridge is going to be a hotter CPU then Sandy was. It really generates a lot of heat so you need a good cooler which you have.

The 3770k OCed will spank any AMD CPU FX8350 OCed.

Yes AMD has 8 physical cores, but they are slow cores each. Very dismal single threaded performance. Sandy 2600 OCed blows it away as well.

Get the Ivy Bridge 3770k, But just know that you wont be able to just upgrade CPU to Ivy E 6 to 12 cores or Sandy E 6 core.

This is why I got a 2011 because Ivy E and Sandy E will work with it. Intel guru already said it will work on x79 , you just might need a bios flash, thats all.

So if you buy a 3770k now, in 5 months Ivy E comes out, your gonna feel like sH*t.

Hang on for another couple months and do it the right way. gl

Also Ivy will overclock better then AMD.
 
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DjTony90 said:
guys... i dont care for the 150$ more... i need the MAX FPS i can get from theese 2 cpu... i speak always with MAX OVERCLOCK... so which one will take MORE O/C and have more FPS ?
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Hey idontcare, do you have a graph between 4P Xeon E5-4650's and 8P Opteron 6380's?
 
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