CPU 100% Usage every few minutes

dataswitch

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Lately, my computer has been freezing a lot while I'm on it. I'll be doing simple things like navigating folders or just surfing online. It will freeze for about 15-20 seconds and then usually come back to normal.

I've pulled up the Task Manager to look at the Performance tab, and the CPU Usage History graph will show a big spike in the CPU usage after it has frozen for a little bit. I'm not really sure what's going on because I'm not doing anything very CPU intensive right now.

Here's the specs for my computer:
Windows XP Pro SP2
AMD 4200+ Dual core
2 GB memory

The only way I've been able to temporarily fix it is by shutting down the computer, unplugging the power and letting it discharge completely. After powering it back up, it seems to be ok for a while but then eventually starts screwing up again. Any suggestions other than wiping it would be great, cause that's what I'm about to do.
 

JustaGeek

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Run a good AntiVirus software like Norton and good AntiSpyware like SpySweeper or Spyware Doctor.

Preferably in the Safe Mode. Looks like a virus or some other malware to me.

Good luck!
 

boomhower

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I would agree with justaGeek. If that checks out fine I would suspect a bad driver or driver conflict.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I couldn't add much to either boomhower or JustaGeek.

That's a symptom that could have any of several different causes.

If the system doesn't completely freeze up, try popping up the Task Manager and watch the Processes tab to see which program is hogging clock cycles.

And as the others said, run some virus scan program in Safe Mode.

Personally, though, I'd look for something other than Symantec-Norton AV. We don't use Symantec anymore, or for those few machines still running it, we've already got a multi-seat license for Kaspersky KIS 7.0.

If I say "I HATE Norton," I could write reams as to why.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Wait a minute!! Which AV or security program ARE you using?

There was a problem with CA E-Trust that became apparent to me a couple years ago, when I was toying with it as a security-suite option -- a component that some complained would grab piles of clock-cycles on a regular basis -- every few seconds or so.
 

VirtualLarry

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To check and see if you are thermal-throttling, download and run RMClock. Long pauses can also be HD errors, while the HD is retrying, everything freezes up. Check the system event log for errors.
 

JustaGeek

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Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
I couldn't add much to either boomhower or JustaGeek.

That's a symptom that could have any of several different causes.

If the system doesn't completely freeze up, try popping up the Task Manager and watch the Processes tab to see which program is hogging clock cycles.

And as the others said, run some virus scan program in Safe Mode.

Personally, though, I'd look for something other than Symantec-Norton AV. We don't use Symantec anymore, or for those few machines still running it, we've already got a multi-seat license for Kaspersky KIS 7.0.

If I say "I HATE Norton," I could write reams as to why.

I have been using Norton Internet Security 2007, and (besides manageable issues) love it!

Haven't tried Kaspersky, but had problems with some other ones.

Why is Norton on your "black list"...? It has been keeping me "virus-free" for almost 4 years now... (hope it continues...)
 

BonzaiDuck

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I'll share.

In 2000, I'd moved back to So-Cal, bringing my computers with me from Virginia. I had network subscription for McAfee, and they were offering me update bargains i couldn't refuse.

Then, in 2002, I get an e-mail with a suspicious attachment from San Bernardino County offices. Only person I knew who had contact with that county was my friend, a retired SB Deputy Sheriff who still worked part-time as a firearms instructor. I sent him an e-mail, and his response was "He-e-ellp Meeee!!" He had the Klez virus, and all sorts of other assorted problems, and I must've given three work-days to unravel his system.

But what really irked me was that McAfee hadn't caught that e-mail attachment as a Klez infection, and the only reason I didn't infect my system was because I've been pretty savvy about this business for going on three decades.

The only time I ever caught a virus before happened when I worked for the gov in DC, and somebody brought me a 5.25" disk of files down from the Asst Sec'y for Management's office -- it gave my system the "Stoned" virus. In my "other career," I taught CS and database courses at a small university with a large number of Chinese students, who would return from the holidays every January spreading cold and flu as well as computer viruses all over the school. I'd set things up so that the student disks I took home never got infected, and my home-office systems were safe. I still had to buy cough medicine and Thera-Flu, but my computers were uninfected.

We checked "Consumer Reports" to find an alternative to McAfee, and I should've done the leg-work myself and done some web-searches for CNET, ZDNET and other reviews, but I let CR be the guideline. It recommended Norton. I'd used Norton before; I was even fairly impressed with the earlier Norton software from the 1990's, even before Symantec bought it up.

But all along, I KNEW that Norton leaves traces of itself in the system registry if you go to uninstall it. My lawman-friend had been using an expired version of it, and I had to do at least a partial cleanup before a new license would even install on his system.

My brother and Sis-in-law began using it because I was using it. Eventually, we all had troubles. If a download of virus-definitions failed during an update, it would leave the system in an awful mess. And I became very suspicious when -- among the extended family -- about two months before subscriptions expired, these sorts of things would happen. And they would happen just when newer versions were being offered all around with rebates. We started getting into the habit of skipping the subscription renewals in favor of just updating the software.

I had hardware AND software troubles on my last (pet) computer, initially attributing it to Norton, and again, when uninstalling it, it left traces all over the system registry and the Program Files, user-profile Local-Settings and Application files -- just all over the place.

More recently, re v 2007, I'd got a 3-user license as a fall-back for an after-rebate price of about $15. I was moving our systems here to Kaspersky and an experimental "evaluation" of Bit-Defender -- latter in a 2-user license. I discovered that after uninstalling Norton and cleaning things up for what I thought was a thorough job, the G$*D*m LiveUpdate program was still on there, and it was interfering with both Bit-Defender and my registry management program. IT WAS STILL GOING OUT ON THE WEB AND ATTEMPTING TO UPDATE NORTON, after I'd done a regular uninstall and cleaned up the hard disk and registry!!

Many of my friends across the country have migrated to Kaspersky; Bit-Defender is highly rated also; my brother was using Trend-Micro and swore by it. But a firm in Israel and some other online sources had done some evaluations of AV and firewall software, which we were able to look at. They put Windows LiveOne Care and Symantec Norton at the bottom of the ratings for "robustness, thoroughness and reliability." Kaspersky and Bit-Defender were near the top. Part of the reason they rated LiveOne and Norton so badly was an inability to detect mutating threats.

If you look at the Kaspersky manual, I think you'll be impressed. This is a Russian company which has now a division in the US. If someone asked about the drawbacks to their program, I'd say that a noobie or casual user without computer savvy might make bad decisions based on Kaspersky's pop-up alerts, because it can be easily enabled to examine just about every software program on your system and ask you whether or not to put it in a "trusted zone." And its alerts are a bit scary -- they carry an alarm that sounds like squirrel having its tail run over by a cement truck.

Other than that, I love it -- Da!! Multi-year licenses, multi-seat licenses, too.

But keep in mind that this part of the software industry attempts to meet a changing and fluid threat, so last year's rating may be eclipsed by new developments.

 

JustaGeek

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That's quite a story... I remember "Stoned" too, brought it home with some CAD drawings from work, my home AV detected and disabled it. Told people at work, no one would believe me, but then they ran some AV and found it, too. Looked at me like if I had something to do with it, cause "how could he have ever found it...?" Circa 1992-1993...

In any case, never had a problem installing/uninstalling Norton, but again, I would always replace the outdated one with the new version: 2004, 2005, 2006, and now NIS 2007 since October 2007, and am thoroughly impressed! No problems in XP or Vista. Norton Confidential, 3 computers' "coverage" etc.

But I also use the SpySweeper, and it helped me a lot with some Trojans that Norton would not detect.

Soooo... I still recommend it!
 

BonzaiDuck

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I won't discourage that, but the other thing that annoyed me about it was its interference with another program I use which nevertheless has shortcomings -- IOLO System Mechanic 7. In fact, I also use Registry Mechanic (by PCTools) on one or two other PCs here, and it fouls that up, too.

I don't recommend Sys Mechanic for people unless they know what they're doing, and I despise their AV/Firewall promotion built into the system. I wish they'd tweak it so you could turn off "TotalCare" and SMSystemAnalyzer entirely. It plays well with Kaspersky, but it doesn't play well with Norton -- unless you use it to get rid of Norton's partial-birth leftovers . . .

Again -- Symantec will do the same things, or attempt to do what the Kaspersky and other software-makers do: please customers. But I'm surprised that they hadn't cleaned up the program's uninstall shortcomings as of the 2007 version.

A lot of these programs will hog clock cycles, but that would be less noticeable with C2D or C2Q systems -- which have a lot of clock-cycles to spare. Computer Associates had been in the business since the 1980s -- maybe earlier -- but their ETrust, as of 2006, would eventually push CPU usage to 30% every five seconds or so. Had enough of that -- it was the last one I tried before I started using KIS 6.0. I might have updated our Bit-Defender license, but Kaspersky has really been promoting itself with rebates. Last year, it was a tad more expensive than other packages. This year, it's "an offah ah cannot refuse . . . . "

Again -- one of the features that keeps me using System Mechanic is the way it allows you to clean up systray items -- preventing some of the symptoms that gave birth to this thread in the first place. I mean -- between Adobe Acrobat Reader, Windows Search indexing, nVidia's tool-program -- the list goes on and on. Stuff you don't need to keep running all the time, and it gums up my TrackMania United scores with my little red Porsche. That car really flies down the road now, though . . . virtually-speaking, that is . . .
 

JustaGeek

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I strongly recommend Registry Mechanic - a fantastic tool, that, although hesitantly, I decided to just do its job, and it performs admirably. Just let it delete whatever it finds, and the system will perform much faster.

System Mechanic, however, should not be used in Auto settings - as you've said. I have once lost the Audio on my computer, after the SM6 cleaning...

Norton is not a real "hog" anymore - it will run its Auto Update every hour, and increase a startup time a little, but otherwise it is just a small "nuisance" in today's fast, multi-core systems.

Let's hope that our discussion helps the OP though...
 

tigersty1e

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Open your task manager and click the processes tab.

When your CPU slows down, look to see what is hogging all the resources.
 

Yanagi

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If its svchost that is hogging your CPU resources, there could be one of many many problems. But the first thing I would look then is automatic updates. Try to disable them as they could cause similar issues.

All other given tips are worth looking into aswell
 

fleabag

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I hate norton, norton AV has gone down hill over the years and now is a bloated pos. I've found that norton can skip quite a few viruses that other AV can detect such as kaspersky. I had a system that I knew was infected and despite having norton updated, the virus would always disable the A/V and wouldn't let me reenable the realtime scanning. So I looked around, found it and manually removed it. Later when I got kaspersky I scanned the machine and let kaspersky pickup the rest of the peices but otherwise I ended up having to clean the machine myself because norton couldn't detect it.

Norton antivirus is a really big system hog consuming from what I remember 128MB+ of ram. Very bloated and nothing like it once was.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Some few years ago, I began to notice that Symantec was engaging in practices that withheld good software from the market, as they bought up proven products like Sybergen and then kept from reissuing it. I think there were other cases when they did that. You also wonder why they never released an updated version of Cleansweep ( I could be wrong, but I don't think they did.)

I just think that they should've cleaned up the program's de-installation features long-long ago, because the 2007 version still leaves "stuff" in the registry and folders. CNET's review of Kaspersky back in late '05 confirmed that it would uninstall cleanly. I think it's arrogant of Symantec to design the program with cavalier assumptions that users would never care if it installed cleanly.

There's such a thing as "robust" software -- Intuit is known for it. Kaspersky seems to be just as tightly put together as QuickBooks or Turbo-Tax. And while Bit-Defender is supposed to be as thorough and reliable as Kaspersky or almost so, the quality of the user interface doesn't come close to KIS 6 or KIS 7.

I can point out that Windows Live-One Care seems well-integrated with MS OS's, but it has a terrible reputation for how well it does - . . . . what it's supposed to do.