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Originally posted by: JEDI
i own a house. if i rent out a room, can i take depreciation?

Your house depreciated :Q

Generally that income would be taXIBLE INCOME WOULDN'T IT?
 

draggoon01

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: CPA
Go back to a 2 party, cash system, like just about every other friggen business in this country, and watch health care costs plummet.
Do you mean remove health insurance?

YES. But it will never happen, just like we'll never get away from a graduated tax system - the rules benefit those who make them.

hey, in another thread you said this. what type of system would you propose which would be more fair? or how does the current graduated system benefit the wealthy the most?
 

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My girlfriend and I deliver newspapers to get the bills paid while we are in school and we are paid as independent contractors by the paper. I am used to being paid as a regular hourly employee and having my taxes taken out automatically and such. How will this be different than what I am used to?

Also, what can I put as a deduction from my job? (Gas, car payment, insurance, cell phone, etc?)
 

richardycc

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I do online trading and do my DD online, I think I can deduct my internet access as an expense right? ;)
 

tnitsuj

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CPA,
Do you think a Married couple making right around 100k or maybe a little more depending on what the W2's say, who do not own a home, and have no complicated investments would be well served by off the shelf tax software such as TaxCut, or should we have an accountant do our taxes?

Thanks,
Justin
 

DaWhim

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how about the sale tax that I have to fill in for ny state tax form? I just want to put a 0 in there. too lazy to go over what I have purchased without paying taxes. :)
I make very little money, not more than $6000 a year and a college student. I worked at burger's king for 3-4 months and made $1600, $300-$400 of those went to taxes. :Q I must get those back or I wouldn't have to file the tax form?
 

FettsBabe

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Justin,

I am certified in taxes as well so I will try to help. Any other comments from other tax preparers/Accountants/CPA's are welcome.

In your case it really doesn't matter which method you use.

A large portion of your income is going to go directly to the government and state because you have no tax deductions to list on the Schedule A.

For example, I would suggest you buying a vacation home (condo, etc) or possibly buy a home, so you have some type of tax writeoff other than the typical standard deduction. When you do this you will have interest income that you can have deducted from your gross salary. You can also deduct: donations, mileage for leaders in Cub Scouts or other volunteer agencies, real estate tax, car tax, etc.

It is only until you buy a home that you really start to save money in taxes and gain more in property.

I would also suggest to you that if you are going to purchase real estate that you should purchase it within the first/second quarter in 2004 as the interest rates will go up once the economy and stock market becomes stable again. 6% on a 120,000 home is approximately $700 a month. Then add $150 (approximately) for escrow (taxes, insurance, etc). $850 for a $120,000 is a great investment. Its probably close to apartment rent in your area.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Do I have to live in a house to deduct the interest?

No, as long as you don't rent it out. If you rent it out, there are tests that must be passed in order to get the interest deduction on schedule A.

If you rent out the house, then the rent becomes a business income; interest and mortgage payments, maintainence and all those other goodies become a expense against the rent as well as depreciation of the residence.

Most tax S/W handles this situation nicely, however, you have to provide the numbers.

 

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Originally posted by: AngryPirate
My girlfriend and I deliver newspapers to get the bills paid while we are in school and we are paid as independent contractors by the paper. I am used to being paid as a regular hourly employee and having my taxes taken out automatically and such. How will this be different than what I am used to?

Follow other advice previously given for those who are self employed.
Fill out Schedule C and take as many expenses against this income as possible.
Sample examples have previously been posted. Most tax S/W will provide you with additional examples and hints.

Just make sure that you can back up your numbers with receipts and/or logs.
Car Payments are not expensed, however, interest on the payment is. The car purchase is the expenses and depreciation is written off against it.


Originally posted by: AngryPirate
Also, what can I put as a deduction from my job? (Gas, car payment, insurance, cell phone, etc?)

Job expenses are deductable in Schedule A via Form 2106. Only those which an employer would remburse you for within your actual job duties.
The IRS is very specific on this. Only way around is expenses occured with two active job. Then expenses between the two jobs are valid.
 

Zebo

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Buy two homes. Kick the tenat out and pay hardy any taxes. ;)

Married couples or co-owners who file taxes jointly may keep $500,000 in profits tax-free on the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of the past five years. Roll them every 4 and live off this profit. I try and pay almost as much intrest as I make in regular job income.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: JEDI
i own a house. if i rent out a room, can i take depreciation?


See above response regarding house rent.

The same circumstances apply to a room rent. Just adjust the percentages based on square footage.
I had this situation before and per the IRS advice; one can take the

room area / house area
or
room area / sum(bedroom areas)

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: richardycc
I do online trading and do my DD online, I think I can deduct my internet access as an expense right? ;)

Expenses related to the trading (Internet Access & computer equipment) can go against the trading profits. Computer equipment will have to be depreciated base on % of time the used for On-line trading/research.

DD & Trading at same time will cost you money :evil:
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
CPA,
Do you think a Married couple making right around 100k or maybe a little more depending on what the W2's say, who do not own a home, and have no complicated investments would be well served by off the shelf tax software such as TaxCut, or should we have an accountant do our taxes?

Thanks,
Justin

There seems to be no need for an accountant. Tax S/W and/or by hand should do you fine.

You are donating are large amount of wealth to your Uncle. :(
Start on getting a house to start with, possibly adding a dependent :p
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: DaWhim
how about the sale tax that I have to fill in for ny state tax form? I just want to put a 0 in there. too lazy to go over what I have purchased without paying taxes. :)
I make very little money, not more than $6000 a year and a college student. I worked at burger's king for 3-4 months and made $1600, $300-$400 of those went to taxes. :Q I must get those back or I wouldn't have to file the tax form?

I do not know about NY state taxes. If you choose to put 0, they will be happy. More money for the pols to spend :disgust:

If you have money due to you from the Fed, you do not have to file. Donate your money - they do not care.
the state may require you to file regardless.

If you are owed money, at least determine the amount owed to you.

If then you do not want it, I will provide my Paypal account for you to have it sent there. ;)
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: cchen
My mom made about 48k, I made about 10k. I'm paying all of my college tuition myself. What of the following options would benefit us the most financially?

1. file as dependent of mother, she claims deduction of 4k for "tuition and fees deduction"
2. file as dependent of mother, she claims lifetime learning credit of 2k
3. file as independent, i claim lifetime learning credit
4. file as independent, i claim deduction of 4k

Tax S/W will easily allow you to perform what ifs

Set up two scenerios.

a) Your mother w/ you and play with #1,2 - record the best option
b) You as an indendent - record the best option


Then choose the number that makes the most sense to the overall household.

The Hope deduction for the $4k (tuition?) will have a greater impact on reducing the bottom line (50% = $2K) than the Lifetime Credit(20% = $800).

Normally, the larger amount that can be removed from the higher income level, the better benefit to the bottom line

ie. The tax rate on $48K is higher than that on $10K - therefore either type of reduction should be worth more to the $48K income

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: m2kewl
Originally posted by: Christoph
Originally posted by: m2kewl
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: m2kewl
if mrs. x worked off the books from jan-sept of 2003 (being paid ~$10k/month) and claimed unemployment. will she be in trouble with the irs???

The IRS may not care as long as taxes are paid on the income and employment comp. However, if the state finds out, then there exists financial/criminal fraud and possibly mail fraud (if checks were sent by mail). Figure need for a payback, penaly and interest. Jail time is also an option. Mail fraud willbring the Feds into the picture and trigger an extensive IRS audit for as far back as they can dig. Aslo,t he state will start digging into past records also.

Best bet would be to repay the employment quickly (@10K/month) that should not be difficult.
At that imcome level, it was stupid to try and get an additional $300/week :disgust:

beat to the punch by Vic w/ same advice

1- let's assume that all taxes were paid on the income by the employer and the employment comp. BUT the unemployment checks were never cashed and expired. will mrs x still be in trouble?

2- so if mrs x writes a check for $90k back to the employer for the months worked - she's off the hook??

NOTE: this is NOT a reference to any real life situation!!! i am just curious as to how people can cheat the system...as i know folks work of the books at one time or another.

1. If the taxes were payed on the income, then it's not very "off the books", is it? Doesn't off the books generally mean in cash?

2. Wouldn't you want to repay the unemployment to the state, rather than the wages to the employer, since the amount is so much less

If this were a real situation, the person involved should see a lawyer and determine how to reimburse the state for the unemployment they were inadvertently overpaid.

1- yes, i would take it that OTB means in cash. let's assume that the employer wrote mrs x payments in business checks and not report on 1099. then i assume it's traceable - since banks are forced to report to irs deposits correct?? supposed the employer said "look, i'll eat the taxesfor you but pay you very low rate for your work"

2- true, but i was answering eaglekeeper's question about paying it all back then no harm done. how does soemthing like that work?

that is all - my last questions on this fictitious tax situation. :D

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let's assume that the employer wrote mrs x payments in business checks and not report on 1099. then i assume it's traceable - since banks are forced to report to irs deposits correct?? supposed the employer said "look, i'll eat the taxesfor you but pay you very low rate for your work"
If not reported on 1099or W2, then the employer is not reporting it as income to the IRS. If the employer gets audited, then the checks are an indication of a business expense only. If a finger gets pointed to Mrs x, and the checks are not cashed by her, she is clear. If she cashes a check then it should be reported even if there was no 1099/W2.

If the employer eats the taxes, then they would have to indicate those taxes being paid on the 1099/W2 for Fed, State, SS and any others that Mrs x is responsible for.

 

caitlion

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ok, this is probably a waste of your time, so you dont have to answer if you dont want to.

im 17 and i know NOTHING about taxes. i also make very little of course :-/ can you just explain to me what i need to do, if anything, regarding taxes this year?

my paycheck that i recieved 12/19/03 says

Y-T-D GROSS: 4,402.67
FICA TAX EARN: 4,543.67
MEDICARE TAX EARN: 4,543.67
FEDERAL TAX EARN: 4,543.67
:*(

and

TAXES
Description YTD
FED Withholdng 338.33
FED MED/EE 65.88
FED OASDI/EE 281.71
AZ Withholdng 60.91

my next paycheck, that i recieved 1/2/04 has reset the YTD earnings, even though the pay period ended 12/27/03. why is this?

sorry if this is a waste of your time, i am just so confused what i need to do? do i get money back? i dont think i have to pay anything since i make so little...

also, i just thought of this.. i quit a job in 4/03... got another one, quit that (yeah i know.. too many jobs.. i got really sick though, so i was forced to quit the second), and then got my current job. do my two previous jobs effect anything?

ok this is getting long, thanks for your help :)
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: caitlion
ok, this is probably a waste of your time, so you dont have to answer if you dont want to.

im 17 and i know NOTHING about taxes. i also make very little of course :-/ can you just explain to me what i need to do, if anything, regarding taxes this year?

my paycheck that i recieved 12/19/03 says

Y-T-D GROSS: 4,402.67
FICA TAX EARN: 4,543.67
MEDICARE TAX EARN: 4,543.67
FEDERAL TAX EARN: 4,543.67
:*(

and

TAXES
Description YTD
FED Withholdng 338.33
FED MED/EE 65.88
FED OASDI/EE 281.71
AZ Withholdng 60.91

my next paycheck, that i recieved 1/2/04 has reset the YTD earnings, even though the pay period ended 12/27/03. why is this?

sorry if this is a waste of your time, i am just so confused what i need to do? do i get money back? i dont think i have to pay anything since i make so little...

also, i just thought of this.. i quit a job in 4/03... got another one, quit that (yeah i know.. too many jobs.. i got really sick though, so i was forced to quit the second), and then got my current job. do my two previous jobs effect anything?

ok this is getting long, thanks for your help :)

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my next paycheck, that i recieved 1/2/04 has reset the YTD earnings, even though the pay period ended 12/27/03. why is this?
YTD earnings show as the year when paid, not when earned.
do my two previous jobs effect anything?
The sum of all income from all the jobs is what your taxes are calculated on. Make sure that you enter data from all jobs using the provided W2s
Multiple jobs may cause a slight reduction in the overall withholding required.

With your income, use TurboTax Web. Free use and filing for the Federal.
I do not know about the AZ state. The state should have a simple form that you can copy information from your Federal printout.

 

caitlion

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Response:

my next paycheck, that i recieved 1/2/04 has reset the YTD earnings, even though the pay period ended 12/27/03. why is this?
YTD earnings show as the year when paid, not when earned.
do my two previous jobs effect anything?
The sum of all income from all the jobs is what your taxes are calculated on. Make sure that you enter data from all jobs using the provided W2s
Multiple jobs may cause a slight reduction in the overall withholding required.

With your income, use TurboTax Web. Free use and filing for the Federal.
I do not know about the AZ state. The state should have a simple form that you can copy information from your Federal printout.

i will get w-2s from my current job, correct? but what about the other two? will they send me them or something?

thanks so much for the help :)

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: caitlion
i will get w-2s from my current job, correct? but what about the other two? will they send me them or something?

thanks so much for the help :)

Every employer is required by law to provide a W2 for the earnings from the previous year. This is supposed to be provide by the end of January.

If you do not recieve one by the first week of Feb, contact the employer and ask for a copy.

For jobs that started and ended work within the same year, the numbers that you see on the last paystub should match the W2 and allow you to due advance entries/planning for your taxes.

 

polm

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Question about Capital Gains and Losses

I am re-filing my 2000 tax returns due to a mistake I made with some Non-Employee Compensation.

In addition to the Schedule SE stuff, I am also wanting to file a Schedule D.

In 2000 I sold a total of $5,416.00 in stocks/bonds that I took a failrly significant loss on (in terms of price purchased vs. price at sale time)

What kind of deduction can I expect to receive for this ?
 

caitlion

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: caitlion
i will get w-2s from my current job, correct? but what about the other two? will they send me them or something?

thanks so much for the help :)

Every employer is required by law to provide a W2 for the earnings from the previous year. This is supposed to be provide by the end of January.

If you do not recieve one by the first week of Feb, contact the employer and ask for a copy.

For jobs that started and ended work within the same year, the numbers that you see on the last paystub should match the W2 and allow you to due advance entries/planning for your taxes.

ok, cool. thanks again! :D

 

alkemyst

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I have to figure out the $30k I made last year as a self-employed contractor (not bad considering I sit at home and this was my first year) and then offset that I am hoping to make $60k this year. I was going to switch to a 'real job' but I am glad I stuck with this...how else could I nef all day and be paid ;)

Last year I wrote off part of my PC, car for a few business trips, stationary and the like....with my wife's INS stuff though my records are a little lousey since I was focusing on that. I am sure there are a lot of other expenses I am overlooking.

I will probably owe a penalty too....I am trying to minimize the impact of this, and plan ahead for next year now.

Thanks
&Aring;
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: polm
Question about Capital Gains and Losses

I am re-filing my 2000 tax returns due to a mistake I made with some Non-Employee Compensation.

In addition to the Schedule SE stuff, I am also wanting to file a Schedule D.

In 2000 I sold a total of $5,416.00 in stocks/bonds that I took a failrly significant loss on (in terms of price purchased vs. price at sale time)

What kind of deduction can I expect to receive for this ?

As a rough estimate, look at the tax bracket % that you were in. Take that % and calculate against the loss.
Make sure that you also account for brokerage fees and other expenses used to keep track of the investments.

 

Fiveohhh

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Here is my situation. Me and my girlfriend bought a house last december and curious how to handle this. I run a small uniform business out of my basement probably did about 10k worth of sales this year(maybe 3k-4k profit). I have a few questions. should i just leave the uniform business out of the picture and pretend like it doesn't exist? also last year we had about 1500 in closing costs that they sent us a form for. I sent it to the guy that did my taxes last year, but he didn't do anything with it. I kinda forgot about it and curious if I should have gotten some extra $ back with it. and lastly if we both live in the house and the mortgage is in both our names, does it matter which one of us files with the house, or can we both do it? and lastly, I've spent a few grand on home improvements is there anything I can do with those?

I'd just like to thank you in advance this has been on my mind for quite awhile, and I don't know any tax people.