Cox Communications sends cease and desist email

[hevnsnt]

nothing, tell cox that you are going to keep them, and that you would appreciate it if they told MGM to "Kiss My Ass"

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: freesia39

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: elbosco
Well, I've gone ahead and deleted the episodes but I still think it's odd that such a fuss is made for tv shows, especially one where it's halfway through the season and there are no dvd's available to purchase.

I'm willing to bet that a substancial amount of users here download top gear episodes each week, despite the legal nature of it.

Oh well.

The difference is Top Gear doesn't air in this country🙂

A tv show by any other name would still smell like feet.

huh?😕

Let me rephrase; A tv show is still a tv show despite what country it is aired in. Who's to decide tv show A is permissable to download while tv show B must be avoided like the plague?

because makers of shows in say, asia really don't care if people (for now) are downloading their eps in the US, but care a big deal if they're doing it in asia. that's how i'm still getting all my korean dramas.

That's odd.

If MGM doesn't want me downloading their episodes, that's fine. It's their property.

I'm more concerned about having my account with Cox suspended 🙁

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: mugs
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

That page has no mention of broadcast television or radio shows on it.

Copywrite laws have gotten out of hand.

Yes, damn them for trying to keep control of their intellectual property. They should do everything for free.

As an aside, I have downloaded more than my share of stuff in the past. However, I know straight up what I did. What kills me is not people who download stuff but rather those that download media then try to justify what they did by complaining about how laws are 'unfair' or media 'art' should be free for everybody or some other crap along those lines.

I don't condone nor deny the illegal nature downloading software, music, and other media, but who is being hurt by downloading an episode of a tv show that I missed?

I really don't know. However just because somebody is not being 'hurt' does not mean it is okay.

Hell the truth is I am with you in one sense. Heck I even like Stargate Atlantis myself and last season had to download a few episodes of 24 when I missed them. Personally I do feel that those companies should not go after people who download recenet television episodes. However I think that if the television show is released in DVD format *then* you download it from the net, I can understand them going after you.

Guess here is my point: I wish we could legally download stuff from the net, however I partially understand why the corperations do not want "us" to do that. Just because I want to does not make it right.

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
nothing, tell cox that you are going to keep them, and that you would appreciate it if they told MGM to "Kiss My Ass"

As much as I would enjoy that, I'd rather keep my 4mb account.

 

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: mugs
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

That page has no mention of broadcast television or radio shows on it.

Copywrite laws have gotten out of hand.

No specific mention of them, but it still applies to the OP, and it's good for anyone to read. Most people have very little understanding of copyright laws (whether the law is right or not notwithstanding).

No I hear ya, but that page doesn't cite the laws, and it's really just some random guy talking about the laws. Not very concrete.

Yes, damn them for trying to keep control of their intellectual property. They should do everything for free.

As an aside, I have downloaded more than my share of stuff in the past. However, I know straight up what I did. What kills me is not people who download stuff but rather those that download media then try to justify what they did by complaining about how laws are 'unfair' or media 'art' should be free for everybody or some other crap along those lines.

As I said it has gotten out of hand. I just read an article on the hisotry of the copywrite. It has been mutated and completely perverted over time.

Anything can be deemed intellectual property. I could sneeze on a napkin and that could be considered intellectual property.

 

[theblackbox]

tivo? i think the industry fears htpc more, with the ability to easily burn dvds of tv shows and movies, and the ability to easy give them out.
The only problem i could see is with expanded content. If you are doing it with network tv, who cares, it's readily available, but expanded listing is a different story, thats where cable companies make their money.

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: mugs
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

That page has no mention of broadcast television or radio shows on it.

Copywrite laws have gotten out of hand.

Yes, damn them for trying to keep control of their intellectual property. They should do everything for free.

As an aside, I have downloaded more than my share of stuff in the past. However, I know straight up what I did. What kills me is not people who download stuff but rather those that download media then try to justify what they did by complaining about how laws are 'unfair' or media 'art' should be free for everybody or some other crap along those lines.

I don't condone nor deny the illegal nature downloading software, music, and other media, but who is being hurt by downloading an episode of a tv show that I missed?

I really don't know. However just because somebody is not being 'hurt' does not mean it is okay.

Hell the truth is I am with you in one sense. Heck I even like Stargate Atlantis myself and last season had to download a few episodes of 24 when I missed them. Personally I do feel that those companies should not go after people who download recenet television episodes. However I think that if the television show is released in DVD format *then* you download it from the net, I can understand them going after you.

Guess here is my point: I wish we could legally download stuff from the net, however I partially understand why the corperations do not want "us" to do that. Just because I want to does not make it right.

I understand that and agree with you completely.

The fair use clause of the DMCA needs to be clearly defined because everyone has a different opinion of what constitutes 'fair use.'

 

[elbosco]

I was just wondering seeing how I deleted the episodes in question, should I simply ignore the email and continue surfing the web or do I need to contact Cox? Has anyone else gotten a similar letter? What did you do?

 

[jai6638]

btw which ports must one use on Bitorrent and how dou change ports on azureus?


cheers

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: elbosco
Here's the deal: I just received an email from Cox stating they received a complaint from MGM that I downloaded material, subsequently infringing the DMCA, and that my service will be cancelled if the obtained material isn't removed.

Here the kicker: the only thing downloaded on my pc were 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis. How is that illegal? Apparently I can use tivo to record tv shows but I can't download them off the internet? Isn't that a little odd?

Anyways, I'll go ahead and delete the 4 shows if it'll make MGM happy and hopefully I'll keep my internet connection.

Cliff notes:
1. I download 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis
2. I receive cease and desist email from isp stating they will shut down my account unless I delete the obtained materials
3. wtf?

I got all the StarGate Atlantis eps thus far, and Seasons 7 and 8 of SG1. If they were to contact me, I'd burn them to DVD and remove them from the hdd. Then they'd be happy. Then I'd put them on a different system's hdd . . . and mail MGM a photo copy of my middle finger.

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: elbosco
Here's the deal: I just received an email from Cox stating they received a complaint from MGM that I downloaded material, subsequently infringing the DMCA, and that my service will be cancelled if the obtained material isn't removed.

Here the kicker: the only thing downloaded on my pc were 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis. How is that illegal? Apparently I can use tivo to record tv shows but I can't download them off the internet? Isn't that a little odd?

Anyways, I'll go ahead and delete the 4 shows if it'll make MGM happy and hopefully I'll keep my internet connection.

Cliff notes:
1. I download 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis
2. I receive cease and desist email from isp stating they will shut down my account unless I delete the obtained materials
3. wtf?

I got all the StarGate Atlantis eps thus far, and Seasons 7 and 8 of SG1. If they were to contact me, I'd burn them to DVD and remove them from the hdd. Then they'd be happy. Then I'd put them on a different system's hdd . . . and mail MGM a photo copy of my middle finger.

Sounds like a plan, too bad I haven't received my dvd burner yet so I simply deleted the material. Oh well.

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: jai6638
btw which ports must one use on Bitorrent and how dou change ports on azureus?


cheers

The default ports are 6881-6889. In azureus you can change the port used in the configuration tab. Here's a guide

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: elbosco
The sad part is I had just read parts of the DMCA for an essay I wrote for English. I should have delved deeper.

It doesn't have anything to do with the DMCA.

And to answer your question about Top Gear, it's still illegal but apparantly they tollerate it.

But what does the DMCA have to do with England? Its not internation is it; er, at least for foreign sourced media.

See bolded section of my previous post.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: elbosco
Here's the deal: I just received an email from Cox stating they received a complaint from MGM that I downloaded material, subsequently infringing the DMCA, and that my service will be cancelled if the obtained material isn't removed.

Here the kicker: the only thing downloaded on my pc were 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis. How is that illegal? Apparently I can use tivo to record tv shows but I can't download them off the internet? Isn't that a little odd?

Anyways, I'll go ahead and delete the 4 shows if it'll make MGM happy and hopefully I'll keep my internet connection.

Cliff notes:
1. I download 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis
2. I receive cease and desist email from isp stating they will shut down my account unless I delete the obtained materials
3. wtf?

your only solution is to move to Canada, where evrything is legal. 😉

 

[slick230]

At this point, with all the MPAA/RIAA/DMCA witch-hunting that's going on, why is anyone still using BitTorrent to download TV episodes, anime, movies whatever anymore? Knowing that these entities are agressively monitoring BitTorrent, why should it come as a shock or suprise when you get a cease and desist letter these days?

 

[Krk3561]

Whats the reason to change the ports?

 

[her209]

I thought BitTorrent traffic was encrypted?

EDIT: For clarity.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: her209
I thought BitTorrent traffic was encrypted?

EDIT: For clarity.

everyone's IP addy is showing. Go load up shareazza and connect to a torrent. Now you can locate all the little law breakers and their ISP.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: elbosco
Here's the deal: I just received an email from Cox stating they received a complaint from MGM that I downloaded material, subsequently infringing the DMCA, and that my service will be cancelled if the obtained material isn't removed.

Here the kicker: the only thing downloaded on my pc were 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis. How is that illegal? Apparently I can use tivo to record tv shows but I can't download them off the internet? Isn't that a little odd?

Anyways, I'll go ahead and delete the 4 shows if it'll make MGM happy and hopefully I'll keep my internet connection.

Cliff notes:
1. I download 4 episodes of Stargate Atlantis
2. I receive cease and desist email from isp stating they will shut down my account unless I delete the obtained materials
3. wtf?

You really dont' need to post cliff notes for a post with only 3 paragraphs and 5 sentences.

 

[vital]

good thing i use my neighbor's insecure wifi to download stuff 😉
















jk.. 😎

 

[silverpig]

I'm glad I'm in Canada. I download all my tv eps. The no commercials is nice, but the big thing is I'm not stuck to the networks' schedules.

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: slick230
At this point, with all the MPAA/RIAA/DMCA witch-hunting that's going on, why is anyone still using BitTorrent to download TV episodes, anime, movies whatever anymore? Knowing that these entities are agressively monitoring BitTorrent, why should it come as a shock or suprise when you get a cease and desist letter these days?

uh... witches are fictional. people really are pirating.

 

[BannedTroll]

1. No commercials which the advertisers pay for you to see
2. It is easy to redistribute
3. They sell DVDs of every half way decents show now. If you can download it why would you buy it?

 

[pallansar]

If you have a cable internet connection through Cox Cable, then why not just download your favorite episodes from their newsgroups service? You're paying for it anyways.

 

[imported_Phil]

*cough*Protowall*cough*