Coworker didn't help with final paper

BigDH01

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A long story short, a coworker of mine and I are taking a class together. He's kind of a freeloader and very lazy. For our final paper, he contributes his half by copying and pasting from a different paper he wrote this semester for a different class that has different requirements. I talked to him today and told him that he needed to rewrite the background, trim some area, add to others, and write an introduction as I'll still be writing the vast majority of the paper. He said that he couldn't tonight but that he trusts my ability to write if I want to. Paper is due tomorrow. I end up just writing the whole freaking thing. I'm now really pissed. Should I send him this email?

Here is the final paper. I've got to be straightforward with you and tell you that I'm finding it really hard to put your name on this paper. I've been working on it all night as well as the time spent working on it after class last night. Out of the 10 pages of actual solid paper, I wrote 10 of them. The paper that you sent me was all background information and much of it irrelevant to the cases that we chose while brainstorming. I therefore just re-wrote a small background section that was more relevant to the requirements of the paper. I did all of the research for the small background section myself. Judging by how he graded the presentations, he was more concerned with ethical analysis and position defenses. I wrote all of that.

I understand you couldn't help re-write tonight and add to the paper. However, I have other obligations as well. It's not like I really wanted to sit around and write a paper all night. I certainly didn't want to work on the paper last night after a day of work and our presentation. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Now I'm tired, and to be honest, a little frustrated and angry. You've basically put zero effort into our final paper (copying and pasting a paper you wrote for another class and per different requirements does not count) and are expecting to get equal credit. I'm going to sleep on it now, but like I said, having real trouble putting your name on this paper.

He did this to me last semester and I was an idiot for teaming with him this time. I just don't feel like he should receive equal credit. At the same time, I have to work with the guy, although in a different building.
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Email him and call him ASAP and tell him you're not putting his name on the paper.

FTW!!!!

ohhh.... then turn in the paper with ONLY your name on it... and include his stuff separately for the professor to see. :evil:
 

Mardeth

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I wouldnt put his name on it. Try to contact him and tell him that thought.
 

Platypus

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people like this are everywhere in every job or class you'll be in.

he got where he is today because of poor saps like you doing all the work but not wanting to rock the boat w/ having to see this guy often.

I say fvck him, don't enable him to be a mooch.
 

BigDH01

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And he's in my same graduate program. I shouldn't have to carry him through classes. In the end, he's my future competition. I'm not going to inflate his GPA.
 

DrumminBoy

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While I hate freeloaders, it isn't fair for you to leave him hanging hours before the paper is due. If it were me, I would send him that e-mail and gauge his response. If he is grateful for your work, let him know that this is the last time you'll ever cover for him, in or out of the workplace; if he's a dick about it, f*** him.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: DrumminBoy
While I hate freeloaders, it isn't fair for you to leave him hanging hours before the paper is due. If it were me, I would send him that e-mail and gauge his response. If he is grateful for your work, let him know that this is the last time you'll ever cover for him, in or out of the workplace; if he's a dick about it, f*** him.

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Big no-no. He knew it was due tomorrow and he just told him to write it for him. He obviously knew what he was doing. This guy needs to learn so just turn in the paper with only your name on it and be done with it. He wouldn't do the same for you. You are adults and should be able to know the consequences of your actions.
 

toolboxolio

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Don't let the mods, loke or the gay boy band known as "menudo" hear the word cheat, OP.

You will be expelled from whatever you are referring to.
 

everman

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Only your name on the paper, and turn in a blank page with his name and nothing else separately. Bonus points if you misspell his name.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Platypus
people like this are everywhere in every job or class you'll be in.

he got where he is today because of poor saps like you doing all the work but not wanting to rock the boat w/ having to see this guy often.

I say fvck him, don't enable him to be a mooch.
Agreed.
/thread
QFT
:thumbsup:
kthxbye

(I seriously agree with the above post, don't let it continue any further)
 

worthless085

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Platypus
people like this are everywhere in every job or class you'll be in.

he got where he is today because of poor saps like you doing all the work but not wanting to rock the boat w/ having to see this guy often.

I say fvck him, don't enable him to be a mooch.
Agreed.
/thread
QFT
:thumbsup:
kthxbye

(I seriously agree with the above post, don't let it continue any further)

//thread
 

LEDominator

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Originally posted by: BigDH01
And he's in my same graduate program. I shouldn't have to carry him through classes. In the end, he's my future competition. I'm not going to inflate his GPA.

dude, wth are you even considering his name for a paper you wrote? Screw this guy, you did the work, you put on the name. If he hasn't learned the lesson of share the load by now (grad school) this will be a nice wake up call
 

allisolm

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He did this to me last semester

You knew what he was like. You paired with him again. You waited until the day before the paper was due to write it. He shafted you again. If I were in those shoes, I'd kick myself around the block for my stupidity, turn it in as originally planned and HOPE I'd learned something about my choices.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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I'd absolutely not put his name on the paper. This is simply unacceptable. You don't want to help people like him move up.

And considering that this is even the second time around...
 

skrilla

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Live and learn man. Just turn it in with both names and get it over with.

Next time do the paper yourself. This kind of thing happens all the time in group projects.

It'll work out in the end... a few years from now when he is still at that same job.
 

Kev

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When people pulled this sh*t on me in college I would just email the prof detailing how incredibly worthless they were.
 

OpenThirdEye

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Originally posted by: Kev
When people pulled this sh*t on me in college I would just email the prof detailing how incredibly worthless they were.

QFT

I had to do that a few times myself.

...and I'd leave his name off of the paper.
 

jtvang125

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You bent over once and now you're bending over again? You must really like that then.
 

BigDH01

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He sent me an email this morning:

I've reviewed the paper. This project was a partnership. You noted that you worked on the paper all last night. Please know that I worked on my portion of the paper all last weekend. We agreed that I would deliver the introduction and background (which I did on Monday) while you worked the cases and ethical analysis.

You obviously chose not to use much of my information. From the tone of your email and the fact that you've dropped my name from the essay, I'm not quite sure how to respond.

The paper is excellent, but I need to know if it is your intention to submit this project without including me.

He worked on his other paper all last weekend and he believes this should count for both classes. Here is the response I have:

You gave me a paper that you copied and pasted from another essay that you wrote. You wrote a different paper last weekend for another class per different requirements. That?s not the same as spending all weekend on our paper. What you gave me was primarily background information and judging from how Greg graded the presentations, background information isn?t what he wants. When I explained to you that a new introduction would have to be written that made sense in the terms of our paper, and that the background information would have to be modified, you explained that you had little league but that you trusted my ability to write it. And please note that I also wrote the position, solution, future, and conclusion sections. When taking the grade weighting into account, and emphasizing analysis and position (the most heavily weighted aspects) it simply didn?t make sense to use your paper. Nor should it have, your paper addresses a different class. Even if I used your small background section, that would still only account for one page out of our 10 page paper.

Please understand, I know you have other things to do. I have other things to do as well. It?s not like I went home last night and was glad to be spending all night writing a paper. It?s not like I was happy spending all of last weekend finishing a final for another class. However, this is what happens when you are a student. And while you were out at little league last night, I was writing our paper. Basically, I feel like I?ve made the sacrifice to make sure the paper is A material and you have not. In this case, copying and pasting material from a different paper was simply not enough to earn an A.

So basically I?m thinking this right now. I?m going to hand in the paper with your name on it but include an attachment that includes the paper you sent me to show Greg your contribution. I?m just finding it very morally difficult to hand in this paper with your name on it knowing that the words are entirely mine. The only reason I?m considering it at all is because you are a friend and coworker. If not, I would?ve handed in this paper without your name last night.

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to put his name on it but submit the assignment with a note (it's over WebCT) that says that Dave wasn't able to contribute due to outside reasons. I'll then also attach the paper he sent me that he wanted me to use.
 
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hand in with your name only

ive done it before.

infact i did pretty much all this FEA work for a little project we had to do, did it in groups of 4. 2 of them decided to just not turn up n get wasted and the 3rd, since he was my friend decided to pitch in at the last minute. after presenting the work, each group was asked to score their peers, you had a points system to score each other, i think it was that the scores had to sum to zero (so if everyone did their fair share they just gave everyone 0 points)

but since i did all the work pretty much i gave myself 10, the guy who pitched in 2 days before 0 and the guys who did jack ****** -5 each. good thing was they at least had the good graces to agree with that because they knew that they'd done nothing at all
 
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Originally posted by: BigDH01


He did this to me last semester and I was an idiot for teaming with him this time. I just don't feel like he should receive equal credit. At the same time, I have to work with the guy, although in a different building.

Shame on you for being a dunce. There is no way out of your predicament. You're going to have to write the damn paper b/c your partner is a slouch. Feel free to let your professor know how the work load was distributed, but don't expect much of a response.