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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Maybe that is because Romo is a superior player when compared to Favre.

Stats don't agree with your assessment.

2006 Favre
72.7 QB Rating
343 completions
613 attempts
56.0 completion percent
3885 yards
242.8 yards/gm
6.3 yards/attempt
18 TD
18 INT
5 Fumbles lost

2007 Favre
97.9 QB Rating
296 completions
439 attempts
67.4 completion %
3412 yards
284.3 yards/gm
7.8 yards/attempt
22 TD's
10 INT
3 Fumbles lost

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2006 Romo
95.1 QB Rating
220 completions
337 attempts
65.3 completion percent
2903 yards
181.4 yards/game
8.6 yards/attempt
19 TD's
13 INT
3 Fumbles lost

2007 Romo
107.1 QB Rating
252 completions
382 attempts
66.0 completion percent
3352 yards
279.3 yards/game
8.8 yards/attempt
33 TD's
14 INT
2 Fumbles lost

Farve has a ton of records and stats under his belt. Certainly one of the best QB's to ever step on the field. But Romo has outplayed him when you compare raw stats.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Farve has a ton of records and stats under his belt. Certainly one of the best QB's to ever step on the field. But Romo has outplayed him when you compare raw stats.

Looking strictly at the last 2 seasons? Sure.

But looking at entire careers...not even close. It's a laughable assertion.
 
Makes me wonder if Favre's resurgence is actually a product of the system, especially the great WRs. Rodgers certainly performed as well.
 
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Makes me wonder if Favre's resurgence is actually a product of the system, especially the great WRs. Rodgers certainly performed as well.

Nobody hasn't questioned that at all.
In fact I thought it was pretty much a given. Favre is still one of the greats, but he's 38 and McCarthy set up a great game plan for every game (baring the 1st half last night), and Ted Thompson has done a tremendous job of piling talent around Favre (for once in his career).

Its the system at this point making Favre look good, but obviously Favre is still Favre and adding that much more to a great system.


 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Farve has a ton of records and stats under his belt. Certainly one of the best QB's to ever step on the field. But Romo has outplayed him when you compare raw stats.

Looking strictly at the last 2 seasons? Sure.

But looking at entire careers...not even close. It's a laughable assertion.

LOL of course you only take the waning years of a aged veteran and compare them to a rising star who just started his career! Makes sense to me! 😕
 
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.

What? No Admirals in your signature?
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Farve has a ton of records and stats under his belt. Certainly one of the best QB's to ever step on the field. But Romo has outplayed him when you compare raw stats.

Looking strictly at the last 2 seasons? Sure.

But looking at entire careers...not even close. It's a laughable assertion.

LOL of course you only take the waning years of a aged veteran and compare them to a rising star who just started his career! Makes sense to me! 😕

Even digging back 10 years to Farves glory days Romo is on track this year to do as well if not better any of Farves single season highs.

I'm simply going off of stats, which is why I quoted the original post by Pabster.

Statistically Romo is an elite.

How he does over the next 10 years will be the final validation.

But right now he is simply one of the best out there, and playing better statistically than one of the best ever played.
 
The Packers killed themselves in this game. Who allows an AJ Hawk / TO matchup to happen? How was TO uncovered 3 times for big gains? How was Crayton uncovered for that 22 yard completion for a first down? The Packers secondary was awful and singlehandedly lost them that game.

The Cowboys played well and took what was given to them, which just happened to be everything.
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.
Negate the Cowboy's 37 points and Green Bay wins 27-0!
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.

lol...please, if you want to play that idiotic game, Dallas left some points on the board too.

1) The 4th and one was close, another couple of inches and you've got a first down. Or they could have kicked it, they were well within Folk's range
2) The interception in the end zone....close enough that if you want to play this "what if" game, Dallas sure could have scored there 99 times out of 100
3) If you didn't notice, when Dallas took over, they just ran the ball until they kicked a field goal. Coulda scored a touchdown there, too.

See how stupid it is to play that game? What happened, happened, deal with it.

Now...as for injuries, sure the Packers were hurt more here. However, its a part of the game, overcome or go home. Who is to say if Woodson is playing, they don't get the ball to Witten earlier, or hand it to Barber more often? And have you heard of a guy named Terry Glenn? He's the Dallas receiver that last year, many people said was the best receiver on the team. If all goes well, he'll be healthy for the playoffs. Also, Anthony Henry still isn't at full speed, and should be by then.

As for the blown DPI call...yea, it was a bad call, but come on. Dallas was MARCHING on the Packers every time they had the ball, you act like there's no way they score if thta call wasn't made.

Close up the crybox, send away the waahmbulance. The Packers lost, it was a good game, and we'll see what happens in the rematch. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. You want to play the "what if" game? How about, what if Favre didn't get injured? Then Dallas might have won by 30, with the way he was playing.
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.

and if farve wouldnt have thrown a few pics and got hurt. And if the game was played in Wi and not Dalles and if...


this has got to be one of the most retarded post i have seen.
 
How about, what if Favre didn't get injured? Then Dallas might have won by 30, with the way he was playing.

🙁 but true

I still don't get what was going on... I want to know if that was Favre or dumb play calling. They have lived and (rarely) died by the dink and dunk for 11 games all season. Then they just decide to "air the fucking thing out"? Mind boggling what was going on there, especially after the 1st possession went so smoothly.

I will say it again, I was impressed with Rodgers. I never thought he had it in him, but he showed me (and others) a lot last night bringing them within 3pts.

It was the Packers D that cost the game though. No DLine pressure and simply no secondary at all. Linebackers? Was Nick Barnett on the field last night?

Edit (For Deeko): six-foot eight, weighed a fucking ton
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
How about, what if Favre didn't get injured? Then Dallas might have won by 30, with the way he was playing.

🙁 but true

I still don't get what was going on... I want to know if that was Favre or dumb play calling. They have lived and (rarely) died by the dink and dunk for 11 games all season. Then they just decide to "air the fucking thing out"? Mind boggling what was going on there, especially after the 1st possession went so smoothly.

I will say it again, I was impressed with Rodgers. I never thought he had it in him, but he showed me (and others) a lot last night bringing them within 3pts.

It was the Packers D that cost the game though. No DLine pressure and simply no secondary at all. Linebackers? Was Nick Barnett on the field last night?

yeah Rogers was good. b ut then again he has been sitting under Farve for a while. i am sure he learned a lot. When farve retires (i am betting end of this year next max) they are in good hands. wich sucks for me since i am a bears fan.

the D sucked. #31 just could nto cover TO and looked like he was giving up.


the play calling did look bad. not the game they usually play.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Homerboy
How about, what if Favre didn't get injured? Then Dallas might have won by 30, with the way he was playing.

🙁 but true

I still don't get what was going on... I want to know if that was Favre or dumb play calling. They have lived and (rarely) died by the dink and dunk for 11 games all season. Then they just decide to "air the fucking thing out"? Mind boggling what was going on there, especially after the 1st possession went so smoothly.

I will say it again, I was impressed with Rodgers. I never thought he had it in him, but he showed me (and others) a lot last night bringing them within 3pts.

It was the Packers D that cost the game though. No DLine pressure and simply no secondary at all. Linebackers? Was Nick Barnett on the field last night?

yeah Rogers was good. b ut then again he has been sitting under Farve for a while. i am sure he learned a lot. When farve retires (i am betting end of this year next max) they are in good hands. wich sucks for me since i am a bears fan.

the D sucked. #31 just could nto cover TO and looked like he was giving up.


the play calling did look bad. not the game they usually play.

It's kinda weird that Rodgers was imitating Romo during practice, and now he can be a Romo. (Backup QB becomes franchise's new star QB.) Green Bay will be really lucky if it can go from Favre to another star QB without going through a lean period. I'm happy for them.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Farve has a ton of records and stats under his belt. Certainly one of the best QB's to ever step on the field. But Romo has outplayed him when you compare raw stats.

Looking strictly at the last 2 seasons? Sure.

But looking at entire careers...not even close. It's a laughable assertion.

Considering Romo behind a strong offensive line, a running game, and TO. It's not like every team have the same WR's and O-Lines every season.
 
Originally posted by: waggy


yeah Rogers was good. b ut then again he has been sitting under Farve for a while. i am sure he learned a lot. When farve retires (i am betting end of this year next max) they are in good hands. wich sucks for me since i am a bears fan.

the D sucked. #31 just could nto cover TO and looked like he was giving up.


the play calling did look bad. not the game they usually play.

I noticed Roger moving in the pocket and moving his head and eyes reminiscent like Farve.
 
the D sucked. #31 just could nto cover TO and looked like he was giving up.


the play calling did look bad. not the game they usually play.


Al Harris (#31) is just too small to cover TO. He gives up like 5" and a lot of muscle. TO is a physical specimen AND has talent. Harris is an elite DB, no question (I will admit that I was very anti-Harris when the Packers first got him and I will now happily eat crow) but when your physically outmanned all the talent in the world won't help you. DBs have the hardest job in the NFL.

 
A few thoughts...

Romo is damn good... that is a duh statement, I know... but he really almost played a perfect game.

Al Harris did not get torched as much as people think... most of TO's big plays came when he went in motion to get him matched up against the middle of the packers secondary so he was being covered by LB's and/or safeties.

I actually like TO... but I had to laugh with that INT he coughed up in the end zone.

That controversial PI call where the defender "tangled" legs with the WR was definitely PI in my mind. DB's even in HS are told/taught to tangle legs with receivers and as means of interfering without getting penalized (I know this from experience)... guys in college and the pro's are experts at it. So how do tell the difference between inadvertent and deliberate 'leg tangling'? Well you can't if the DB if the DB is really but one sure-fire way to tell if it is deliberate is if the DB is not looking back for the ball... in that case they know where the WR is and thus also know where his legs are... in that situation, if the defender runs through the legs of the receiver it should be PI (or at least illegal contact if the ball isn't in the air) every time.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.

and if farve wouldnt have thrown a few pics and got hurt. And if the game was played in Wi and not Dalles and if...


this has got to be one of the most retarded post i have seen.

Wow. Judging by your post count, being put among the "most retarded posts" you have ever seen, I'm actually honored.
 
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


TOLD TA SO!!! Where are all those Packers/Dallas haters fans now? LOLOLOL Bring on the pats again.

Quoted for posterity.

Good Let me quote it again also. Know why? because I am not a bandwagon fan. if Dallas loses to Miami (which they won't 😛 ) I'll still post here because I am a die hard fan. I don't go away because the team loses.


So anyway BRING ON THE PATS. LETS GO ROMO....Brady who? 😀😀:😀😀
 
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
In my opinion, you could negate 2 of the Cowboys TDs due to Woodson being out.

Negate the one blown Pass interferance call that set up the final TD for Dallas because of the ineptitude of the refs.

Packers win. If things play out the rest of the season, the Pack will be back in Big D. And Brett will get his win in Dallas.

and if farve wouldnt have thrown a few pics and got hurt. And if the game was played in Wi and not Dalles and if...


this has got to be one of the most retarded post i have seen.

Wow. Judging by your post count, being put among the "most retarded posts" you have ever seen, I'm actually honored.


you should be. considering i have seen many retarded post. but man yours is right with many of them.
 
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