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Court Rules Social Security Can Be Seized To Pay Student Loans

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
This was a unanimous decision. Why would you presume this reflects any kind of "Roberts SCOTUS reform," when the Rehnquist court would clearly have reached the identical conclusion?

Also, you'll note that the Court upheld the dreaded Ninth Circuit - guess those liberal activist judges aren't completely crazy, eh?
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Even Shaq occasionally hits his freethrows. Or maybe the libs are taking a few tips from the new Chief!
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You haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"?
 
I was reading this thread and remembering how this country forgives the debts of foreigners, takes the debts of corporate pension plans when the companies can no longer pay, gives privileges and loans to those least in need and this came to me.



9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11Give us this day our daily bread.

12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.



I wonder if our country's debt is called should it be forgiven or should we be made to pay?
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
This was a unanimous decision. Why would you presume this reflects any kind of "Roberts SCOTUS reform," when the Rehnquist court would clearly have reached the identical conclusion?

Also, you'll note that the Court upheld the dreaded Ninth Circuit - guess those liberal activist judges aren't completely crazy, eh?
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Even Shaq occasionally hits his freethrows. Or maybe the libs are taking a few tips from the new Chief!
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You haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"?
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It isn't, but I remember after Reinquist's death, someone on here, I don't remember who, said something along the lines of "Poor liberals losing another judge!"

I'm far from a SCOTUS scholar, but some really don't know their ass from their elbow with it.
 
At times zendari == Dave on thread titles that aremissleading/incorrect/outright lies
 
I say just end the student loan system and maybe the demand for classes wil decline and schools will have to offer lower prices.

Student loans are probably fueling a rise in education costs anyway.

Of course if you have a shortage of doctors then your health care costs go up.

So you see, you just cant win!
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
I say just end the student loan system and maybe the demand for classes wil decline and schools will have to offer lower prices.

Student loans are probably fueling a rise in education costs anyway.
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Exactly. There is no reason you should be able to get an education if your parents don't have money, other than joining the military. I mean would you really want the poor to get educated and become the middle class? Who wants a middle class anyway?
 
Well you could use the old method of paying for school where you get educated and then you have to work for a hospital as an endentured servant for 10 years or something like that. Oh, we call that community service now-adays. Just think of it as a barter system.

I am going to school part time in the evening and paying my own way to finish my bachelor's degree, because it costs so much I cant afford to get the loan in the first place. I feel these people's pain, but I dont have an answer. If a class costs over $1,000 and you have to spend another $200 on parking, books, etc, then it is a real drain on the pocket, but it is easier than having to have to pay off $50,000.00 in student loans.

You could take the general ed courses and transfer an Associates degree from a Community College and save thousands of dollars.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Well you could use the old method of paying for school where you get educated and then you have to work for a hospital as an endentured servant for 10 years or something like that. Oh, we call that community service now-adays.
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We call it a residency.
 
I'm curious why the individual had not paid back their loans after more than 20 years? My Son is already having to pay back his loans while he is still in school because he had 3 more hours to complete his graduate work this semester. Not full time = paying back loans. What made this man so special?
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Originally posted by: DonVito
This was a unanimous decision. Why would you presume this reflects any kind of "Roberts SCOTUS reform," when the Rehnquist court would clearly have reached the identical conclusion?

Also, you'll note that the Court upheld the dreaded Ninth Circuit - guess those liberal activist judges aren't completely crazy, eh?
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Because.



 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Because.
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Believe it or not, your answer is infinitely more satisfactory that Zendari's non-answer (though I still maintain that Zendari is a tongue-in-cheek character).
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Glad you caught the humor. 🙂

In this case my answer took the "because" side of the "why / because" arguments that we so enjoyed when we were two years old.

Happy December (please translate into your preferred language so that I don't appear to be too exclusionary.)
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
This was a unanimous decision. Why would you presume this reflects any kind of "Roberts SCOTUS reform," when the Rehnquist court would clearly have reached the identical conclusion?

Also, you'll note that the Court upheld the dreaded Ninth Circuit - guess those liberal activist judges aren't completely crazy, eh?
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Cut the little troll some slack, he's gotta justify those Roberts posters all over his bedroom somehow! 😉
 
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wow at 15 percent of 854 dollars a month or 1500 a year I don't thimk bush will be able to find enough cripples to pay for his war.
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It's OK... he can always get the medical students to pay for it. First, you take away their loans and bankrupt their parents... then you leave them no choice but to go to the army, that will pay for them to finish school. But the trick is, you put them into the most dangerous frontline units - that way, you won't ever need to pay.

Yay - Profit!

Sorry, I am bitter... I know at least one person who will have to drop out if he can't get a federally-subsidized loan next year.
 
I think George W. Bush should have to pay back the million or so dollars that the U.S. government wasted on the fighter pilot training that Georgie didn't bother to show up for.

On another note, maybe Georgie should try finding that $9 billion that went missing in Iraq. That would pay for the delinquent loans and still leave $2 billion for his thieving buddies.

 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari
Even Shaq occasionally hits his freethrows. Or maybe the libs are taking a few tips from the new Chief!
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You haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"?
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Somethings fishy with the 9th circuit. They're 2 for 2. I think its good for the country.


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CA: Court backs jurors' use of Bible texts (9th Circuit reinstates death penalty)

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court reinstated a California man's death sentence, ruling Thursday that jurors did not invalidate their deliberations by considering biblical arguments in favor of vengeance.

The Los Angeles jurors in the 1979 case of Stevie Lamar Fields unanimously agreed that death was the appropriate punishment after their foreman circulated biblical and other religious passages - "an eye for an eye," for example - that seemed to require it.



Perhaps threatening to split them up is shaping them up quite well.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari
Even Shaq occasionally hits his freethrows. Or maybe the libs are taking a few tips from the new Chief!
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You haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"?
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Somethings fishy with the 9th circuit. They're 2 for 2. I think its good for the country.


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CA: Court backs jurors' use of Bible texts (9th Circuit reinstates death penalty)

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court reinstated a California man's death sentence, ruling Thursday that jurors did not invalidate their deliberations by considering biblical arguments in favor of vengeance.

The Los Angeles jurors in the 1979 case of Stevie Lamar Fields unanimously agreed that death was the appropriate punishment after their foreman circulated biblical and other religious passages - "an eye for an eye," for example - that seemed to require it.



Perhaps threatening to split them up is shaping them up quite well.
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/yawn
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito

You haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"?
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Somethings fishy with the 9th circuit. They're 2 for 2. I think its good for the country.
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Again, you haven't answered my question - how is this indicative of "Roberts SCOTUS reform in action"? Why do you think the Rehnquist court would have reached a different decision than this unanimous one?
 


I wonder if it's possible to discharge these loans in bankruptcy. After all, lenders know that they are taking a risk and that they might not recover their principal investment if the person borrowing the money suffers bad luck or for whatever reason fails to profit from the loan.

Maybe the guy never found a job with his college degree and was thus unable to pay off the loan without massive suffering. If he has $1 million in the bank that's one thing, but if he's impoverished then I think the government should just accept it as a loss and leave the poor guy be.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
$77000, and he got a job as a postal worker I hear. Really put that education money to good use.
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Maybe he couldn't find anyone who would hire him for a knowledge-based job. Perhaps he went unemployed for a while during a recession and then suffered discrimination for his having been unemployed or underemployed for too long. We have an oversupply of people with college educations, including those with advanced degrees in a variety of fields (Ph.D. scientists, MBAs, lawyers, etc.).

I truly doubt that he didn't seek out a job that would make use of his education. He wouldn't be the first nor the last person to end up Involuntarily-Out-of-Field. In fact, I suspect that boatloads of people end up underemployed and IOF. Of course, once you've been IOF for a long enough period of time your educational credentials lose all value and you find yourself unemployable.

 
Originally posted by: piasabird
I say just end the student loan system and maybe the demand for classes wil decline and schools will have to offer lower prices.

Student loans are probably fueling a rise in education costs anyway.
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This is an excellent point. In fact, it might help reduce the surplus of college graduates. The negative is that it would also increase class stratification.
 
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