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Court restores Nebraska samesex marraige ban

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LINCOLN, Neb. - A federal appeals court has reversed a ruling that struck down Nebraska's same-sex marriage ban.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday reversed an earlier ruling by U.S. District Judge Joseph Bataillon, who ruled last year that the measure was too broad and deprived gays and lesbians of participation in the political process, among other things.

Seventy percent of Nebraska voters approved the amendment in 2000.

The court said the amendment "and other laws limiting the state-recognized institution of marriage to heterosexual couples are rationally related to legitimate state interests and therefore do not violate the Constitution of the United States."

Attorney General Jon Bruning argued earlier that the ban should be restored because it "does not violate any person's freedom of expression or association."

Opponents of the ban "are free to gather, express themselves, lobby, and generally participate in the political process however they see fit," he said. "Plaintiffs are free to petition state senators to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot. Plaintiffs are similarly free to begin an initiative process to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot, just as supporters ... did."


Yet another court rejects the bull these people continue to spread.
 
Want to save the institution of marriage??? Make it harder to get divorced. Don't deny a certain group the same rights the rest of us already have.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
 
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Want to save the institution of marriage??? Make it harder to get divorced. Don't deny a certain group the same rights the rest of us already have.

they have the same right any man can marry any women that will have him.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
Not even...
There's enough of an incentive to live together in a relationship (from a financial perspective), and I have no problem giving financial assistance to parents (or acting parents) with children.

Other than the financial incentives, there is no reason for marriage or civil unions...why does the state need to know who we are in a long term relationship with?
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
Not even...
There's enough of an incentive to live together in a relationship (from a financial perspective), and I have no problem giving financial assistance to parents (or acting parents) with children.

Other than the financial incentives, there is no reason for marriage or civil unions...why does the state need to know who we are in a long term relationship with?
I think the state must recognize a union otherwise who else are the insurance companies, health companies, employers, schools, etc etc going to turn to for proof of said union?

just my .02

as for the article, I feel bad for those that seek equal protection and rights in a country that stands for equal protection and rights....and do not get it.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
Not even...
There's enough of an incentive to live together in a relationship (from a financial perspective), and I have no problem giving financial assistance to parents (or acting parents) with children.

Other than the financial incentives, there is no reason for marriage or civil unions...why does the state need to know who we are in a long term relationship with?
I think the state must recognize a union otherwise who else are the insurance companies, health companies, employers, schools, etc etc going to turn to for proof of siad union?

just my .02
Why should any of those items be based off your relationship status?
Insurance should be based on risk factors and past history, not if you have a wife or not...
You think a married gay couple are now more or less expensive for the insurance company?

We are so caught up with incentives for married couples, we now feel dependent on state recognizing our relationships. How sad.
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I'm sick of this debate! 😛

Me too, but don't worry, it's going to end before too long...and we all know how it will end. Even zendari and daniel49 know it, even though they won't admit it. Civil rights issues have a funny way of working out how the radicals at the beginning would like them to. Sometimes it takes longer, but I would be truly amazed if gay marriage isn't perfectly legal in 20 years. The other side just doesn't have a very good track record on these kinds of issues.

So my advice, don't worry about it...if you're for gay marriage, you'll win in the end...and if you're against it, do your blood presure a favor and don't rail against it for the next several years, you're going to lose and you know it.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
2 top courts rule against gay marriage.
And a small minded biggoted troll trumpets it on the forums it like it's some grand idea, instead of the triumph of persecution by a stupid majority that it is. 🙁

zendari -- You truly suck as a human being! :|
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
Not even...
There's enough of an incentive to live together in a relationship (from a financial perspective), and I have no problem giving financial assistance to parents (or acting parents) with children.

Other than the financial incentives, there is no reason for marriage or civil unions...why does the state need to know who we are in a long term relationship with?
I think the state must recognize a union otherwise who else are the insurance companies, health companies, employers, schools, etc etc going to turn to for proof of siad union?

just my .02
Why should any of those items be based off your relationship status?
Insurance should be based on risk factors and past history, not if you have a wife or not...
You think a married gay couple are now more or less expensive for the insurance company?

We are so caught up with incentives for married couples, we now feel dependent on state recognizing our relationships. How sad.

It's not about any of that stuff (IMHO), anybody who thinks this has anythign to do with anything other than religion hasn't been paying attention.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.
Not even...
There's enough of an incentive to live together in a relationship (from a financial perspective), and I have no problem giving financial assistance to parents (or acting parents) with children.

Other than the financial incentives, there is no reason for marriage or civil unions...why does the state need to know who we are in a long term relationship with?
I think the state must recognize a union otherwise who else are the insurance companies, health companies, employers, schools, etc etc going to turn to for proof of siad union?

just my .02
Why should any of those items be based off your relationship status?
Insurance should be based on risk factors and past history, not if you have a wife or not...
You think a married gay couple are now more or less expensive for the insurance company?

We are so caught up with incentives for married couples, we now feel dependent on state recognizing our relationships. How sad.
It isnt about incentive. It is about coverage, entitlement, benefactors, and everything else that a husband and wife share as a result of their marraige.

or maybe im just not understanding this particular point of this tired and exhaustive debate.

its late, im rambling. carry on.
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zendari
2 top courts rule against gay marriage.
And a small minded biggoted troll trumpets on the forums it like it's some grand idea, instead of the triumph of persecution by a stupid majority that it is. 🙁

zendari -- You truly suck as a human being! :|

Don't get so worked up. I share your disgust, but it's not worth getting your panties in a wad over. Not because it's not an important issue, but because our side is going to come out of top sooner or later. That's how it seems to work, I'm sure the firehose-toting riot cops in Alabama never thought they'd go down in history as ignorant bigots, but here we are. This will end up the same, you can count on it 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zendari
2 top courts rule against gay marriage.
And a small minded biggoted troll trumpets it on the forums it like it's some grand idea, instead of the triumph of persecution by a stupid majority that it is. 🙁

zendari -- You truly suck as a human being! :|

I could have sworn that I've seen quite a few posters heere in P&N state that the majority supported homosexual marriage. Anyone have a link to any actual statistics?
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zendari
2 top courts rule against gay marriage.
And a small minded biggoted troll trumpets it on the forums it like it's some grand idea, instead of the triumph of persecution by a stupid majority that it is. 🙁

zendari -- You truly suck as a human being! :|

Don't feed the trolls.
 
How can the First Church on the Left in Biloxi, Mississippi who perform marriage for couples with out regard to their sex be precluded from doing that by the Federal or State Government? It could be part of their religious belief that separate but equal is not equal in terms of 'unions'. They may believe that it is imperative for two people 'living together' as in a 'marriage' sense to be in fact married. That they should be accorded all the rights and benefits any other 'married' couple enjoy.
It seems this country ought to adjust the 'One Nation under ... ' to 'One Nation Under What the Majority Deems Appropriate without regard for the minority ...'


The criteria of 'next of kin' ought to be whom ever one elects to be the 'next of kin'.

Taxation ought to be individual with out regard for marriage or any of that.

If the Government wishes to make law that is sustained by the Court then fine.. but make ALL the benefits etc flow to the individual so that side of the equation is separate BUT equal..
 
Originally posted by: nutxo
[I could have sworn that I've seen quite a few posters heere in P&N state that the majority supported homosexual marriage. Anyone have a link to any actual statistics?
I don't think it is the majority opinion, at least yet. Without hunting for stats, I believe support is strongest among younger people and those with more education and weakest among those with less education and whose opinions are most strongly determined by thier religious beliefs.

Personally, I'll choose intellect over dogma any day. Make that EVERY day.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Stunt
I think state sponsored straight marriage should be illegal 😛
Me too. "Marriage" is a religious concept that should be handled by each church according to its own beliefs. The state should provide only for civil unions, equally available to all, for the purpose of providing a legal definition of "family". Everyone in such a family contract would therefore be treated equally, for better and for worse, for taxes, benefits, child support, alimony, etc.

I don't often find myself in agreement with you, but on this issue I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Just remember, back 100 years ago, zendari would have posted something like:

"Plessy v. Ferguson, court rules in favor of separate but equal policy.

It's good to know that only a few believe the propaganda spouted by the blacks that they don't get equal treatment"

Conservatives never learn...
 
Originally posted by: zendari
The entire nation except for a radical few continues to stand against gay marraige.

It's good to see only a small few believe the propaganda and the nonsense that is spouted by these far left groups.

Bolded your Anti-American Hate and Discrimination.

Tyranny was something the Founders of the Country and those who died for it worked so hard to not be part of what the United Steates would be all about.

I say it's time to pass a law banning American Haters and deport them.
 
I think we all know Zendari has a gay lover and he's overcompensating here on the forums due to self-loathing. Best to just ignore him.
 
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