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couple of highspeed net access questions

gigapet

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how much per month should i expect to pay for a dedicated T1 line and what companies lease these lines.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 

IamElectro

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Your looking at $1000-$2000 setup and probably $1000 per month depending on bandwith allowances.
 

Spac3d

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Originally posted by: IamElectro
Your looking at $1000-$2000 setup and probably $1000 per month depending on bandwith allowances.
You can get T1's for a lot cheaper per month than that these days.

 

gigapet

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what exactly is a T1 equivalent to bandwidth wise?

It would be a dedicated connection to a server expected to recieve lots of hits and traffic
 

IamElectro

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Originally posted by: Spac3d
Originally posted by: IamElectro
Your looking at $1000-$2000 setup and probably $1000 per month depending on bandwith allowances.
You can get T1's for a lot cheaper per month than that these days.

I havent checked prices in a while at least a year. That is what I was quoted for my area Northern WV. I believe rates very depending on location.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: gigapet
what exactly is a T1 equivalent to bandwidth wise?

It would be a dedicated connection to a server expected to recieve lots of hits and traffic

A T1 is a symetric connection with 1.5mbits up/down.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: gigapet
what exactly is a T1 equivalent to bandwidth wise?

It would be a dedicated connection to a server expected to recieve lots of hits and traffic

A T1 is a symetric connection with 1.5mbits up/down.

so how many hits a day would that be suitable for?
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: gigapet
what exactly is a T1 equivalent to bandwidth wise?

It would be a dedicated connection to a server expected to recieve lots of hits and traffic

A T1 is a symetric connection with 1.5mbits up/down.

so how many hits a day would that be suitable for?

How many hits would be entirely dependent on the amount of traffic contained in each page and only you know that answer. Take the amount of data per hit and divide the 1.5mbit by that amount and that tells you how many hits/sec.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: gigapet
what exactly is a T1 equivalent to bandwidth wise?

It would be a dedicated connection to a server expected to recieve lots of hits and traffic

A T1 is a symetric connection with 1.5mbits up/down.

so how many hits a day would that be suitable for?

How many hits would be entirely dependent on the amount of traffic contained in each page and only you know that answer. Take the amount of data per hit and divide the 1.5mbit by that amount and that tells you how many hits/sec.

1.5 mbps is the same as saying 15,000 kbps ? or 1,500 kbps?
 

BigFatCow

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my dad just got a T1 at his work, the setup fee is quite a bit but the monthly payments are only around $450. This is in Houston Texas with Birch, SBC wanted around 700 a month.
 

BaboonGuy

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197kbytes/s ? that's extremely weak for 600 a month! i'm running $50 a month comcast cable and i have 261 kbytes/s download! the only benefit for t1 that i can see is the upload not being capped, (mine is capped at around 30 kbytes/s).
 

BigFatCow

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Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
197kbytes/s ? that's extremely weak for 600 a month! i'm running $50 a month comcast cable and i have 261 kbytes/s download! the only benefit for t1 that i can see is the upload not being capped, (mine is capped at around 30 kbytes/s).

The upload is the main thing that makes a T1 so expensive, also they guarantee no down time.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
197kbytes/s ? that's extremely weak for 600 a month! i'm running $50 a month comcast cable and i have 261 kbytes/s download! the only benefit for t1 that i can see is the upload not being capped, (mine is capped at around 30 kbytes/s).

Just because you don't understand how much bandwidth actually costs because grandma having a cable line to check email subsidizes your access doesn't mean that the costs aren't realistic. T1's cost $$$ and T3's cost a hell of a lot more ($10,000+ a month). Moving data costs serious money and that's a fact of life, why do you think people ridicule people that think they should have 1mbit up/down for $30 a month? The fact is that people that don't use much bandwidth are currently subisidising those that do and if that ever changes the bandwidth "hogs" will pay through the nose.
 

FoBoT

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fobot.com
Originally posted by: BigFatCow
Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
197kbytes/s ? that's extremely weak for 600 a month! i'm running $50 a month comcast cable and i have 261 kbytes/s download! the only benefit for t1 that i can see is the upload not being capped, (mine is capped at around 30 kbytes/s).

The upload is the main thing that makes a T1 so expensive, also they guarantee no down time.

yes, with a T1 you get a "SLA" , service level agreement, that means they will actually give a crap if it breaks, with retail bandwidth like comcast cable, if it goes down, you have no guarantee that they will ever fix it , let alone quickly

also the reliablity of commercial lines/uptime is much higher than retail services like cable
 

Ime

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: BigFatCow
Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
197kbytes/s ? that's extremely weak for 600 a month! i'm running $50 a month comcast cable and i have 261 kbytes/s download! the only benefit for t1 that i can see is the upload not being capped, (mine is capped at around 30 kbytes/s).

The upload is the main thing that makes a T1 so expensive, also they guarantee no down time.

yes, with a T1 you get a "SLA" , service level agreement, that means they will actually give a crap if it breaks, with retail bandwidth like comcast cable, if it goes down, you have no guarantee that they will ever fix it , let alone quickly

also the reliablity of commercial lines/uptime is much higher than retail services like cable

I love them SLA's. Where I work we use AT&T Frame-Relay... and after a certain amount of time of the circuit being down... AT&T owes us $$$.

Needless to say the worst outages we have are major fiber cuts... which are usually a local company's problem.

Nothing like Joe with a backhoe tearing up all that fiber!