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Country's Full - Trump Slams Door on Refugees

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scary muslims are a threat
 
you2 said:
'right' is a matter of opinion. If we review some of the incidents in the US over the past 2 years; this action would have virtually no impact. However, this action will alienate folks making security much worse. The comment is of course IMHO and you might disagree.

The problem I have with your statement is that one could make the same statement for any form of discrimination and quite easily. One could 'argue' that crime by certain segment of the population is too high and therefore that segment of the population should (and must) be treated differently. The step between that statement and the one that trump signed is rather small (IMHO).
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I would go so far that many of Trump's action has in fact made the country less safe because it is increasing a state of internal distrust and hostility. But that is IMHO and you are free to disagree.
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The OE that is being discussed has ZERO to do with a certain segment of the population.
 
brycejones said:
WTH is Trump's plan to deal with violent dangerous beds? Anyone can just walk into a store and buy one of these death dealers. There is no vetting before they walk out the door. Why does Trump hate Americans so much?
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I dunno but this about sums it up for in in regards to this bullshit

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imported_tajmahal said:
You forgot to list the 250,000 Americans killed every year by medical errors, making the paltry numbers shot by other Americans inconsequential.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ertificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors
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Yes, I'm sure if Islamic terrorists killed 11,000 people a year you would consider that inconsequential. Lol.

Shooting deaths and medical errors are both serious issues deserving of government attention. Conservatives hyperventilating over imaginary Islamic terrorists while ignoring those issues shows how disconnected you are from realty.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
You forgot to list the 250,000 Americans killed every year by medical errors, making the paltry numbers shot by other Americans inconsequential.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ertificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors
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The good news is medical errors will be reduced by the wholesale destruction of the healthcare industry and insurance system. Fewer consumers should mean fewer errors. Good job GOP!

Also given your fear of death what are you proposing be done about the hundreds who die from falling out of bed every year. This kills far more Americans in the US than terrorism does.
 
To pcgeek who thinks being labeled correctly as a coward is just name-calling: LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR. YOU ARE BEING JUDGED BY IT.

You fucking coward.

I know there are a LOT more cowards spouting the same kind of shit, too. I just moved those people to ignore so I don't get bogged down feeding too many. And pcgeek has shown he's not always an irrational coward, so I continue to watch for his growth.
 
SNC said:
You'll have to draw that line for me that connects people from other countries that are NOT covered under our constitution, to the charge of unconstitutional. Please explain how someone who is not protected under it, is affected by a law or rule that would affect a citizen. I would get behind you if he were to say that a US citizen traveling abroad who is also Muslim can not enter, or if he said that all Muslims in the US who are citizens have to convert or leave.

Please remember I am about as anit-Trump as they come. But blowing things out of proportion and applying fake outrage is part of what got us the dumb fuck. Try hard to have a truthful conversation and not one that at its core is designed just to make Trump look bad, he has that covered.
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"Congress shall make no law.. "

There is no mention there of citizen or immigrant. It says, "No law." This narrative that the Constitution does not apply to non-citizens is simply false.
 
compuwiz1 said:
He's got the authority to do it under 1952 immigration act.
There is nothing unconstitutional in temporarily barring certain people, from terrorist hotbeds, where there is potential for radicals to slip through the cracks and harm us. Our constitution applies to our residents, in our country. We don't owe outside countries residence here. Immigration is a privilege and one that can be regulated,and rightfully so. If immigrants can't be vetted adequately, they don't get in. I'm good with that. I just don't think he applied the order broadly enough. I didn't see Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
This is temporary.

I don't understand why some of you seem to want them here so badly. I'd rather our safety first until we can know for sure who we're getting.
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Don't you see man,most of these people here criticizing this policy were the ones cheering when the terrorists put down the Tween towers on 11 September,all these lunatics are anti-Americans and anything bad that happens to America they cheer,so if i were you i wouldn't give attention to these creeps or respond to these liberals/libertarian lunatic fanatics here..
 
FrankRamiro said:
Don't you see man,most of these people here criticizing this policy were the ones cheering when the terrorists put down the Tween towers on 11 September,all these lunatics are anti-Americans and anything bad that happens to America they cheer,so if i were you i wouldn't give attention to these creeps or respond to these liberals/libertarian lunatic fanatics here..
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Hey Frankieboy - speaking as a New Yorker and an American, fuck off.
 
FrankRamiro said:
Don't you see man,most of these people here criticizing this policy were the ones cheering when the terrorists put down the Tween towers on 11 September,all these lunatics are anti-Americans and anything bad that happens to America they cheer,so if i were you i wouldn't give attention to these creeps or respond to these liberals/libertarian lunatic fanatics here..
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I was on a ship off the coast of LA that was sent there to potentially shoot down any other airliners that might be used in another terrorist attack on September 11th and I think this policy is beyond stupid.

This sort of xenophobic nativism is as anti-American as it gets. People like you who cheer it are a national disgrace.
 
FrankRamiro said:
Don't you see man,most of these people here criticizing this policy were the ones cheering when the terrorists put down the Tween towers on 11 September,all these lunatics are anti-Americans and anything bad that happens to America they cheer,so if i were you i wouldn't give attention to these creeps or respond to these liberals/libertarian lunatic fanatics here..
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Haldol, my good man, Haldol. It's a miracle and I think will help you tremendously.
 
Seriously though, when are all these republican white people gonna get out of the red man's country? Stick to your morals and lead by example.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
Legal settlers and conquerors, not illegal aliens.
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"Legal settlers and conquerors". In other words, genocidal terrorists.

If it isn't a brown man's country, but is a white man's country, then it follows that it's not the white man's country, but the red man's country.

So when are you going to leave? You're a nationalist, time to give the nation back to it's people. Head on over to Europe or Russia, where your ethnicity originates from.
 
Why were they in such a damn hurry? Either the administration is already shown to be incompetent or they just don't give a fuck or both. Either way, our country needs to stay diligent. If they're brazen enough to do this without any planning or talking to the proper agencies about its implementation, who knows what else they have in store?

It looks as though Trump has ADHD. I don't think he can restrain himself. He's probably doing 40 things at once and just throwing shit out there, without much caring what happens with it. The only mitigating factor is his need to seem successful. My brother is less extreme, but everything he ever does is 1/2-assed because he can't focus his attention on it long enough to do it properly. Trump, is going at something more like 1/8-assed.

There's Probably a bunch of Republicans right now getting chewed out for not vetting this "executive order" before sending it out, even though he'd probably told them to send it out immediately.
 
VRAMdemon said:
Why were they in such a damn hurry? Either the administration is already shown to be incompetent or they just don't give a fuck or both. Either way, our country needs to stay diligent. If they're brazen enough to do this without any planning or talking to the proper agencies about its implementation, who knows what else they have in store?

It looks as though Trump has ADHD. I don't think he can restrain himself. He's probably doing 40 things at once and just throwing shit out there, without much caring what happens with it. The only mitigating factor is his need to seem successful. My brother is less extreme, but everything he ever does is 1/2-assed because he can't focus his attention on it long enough to do it properly. Trump, is going at something more like 1/8-assed.

There's Probably a bunch of Republicans right now getting chewed out for not vetting this "executive order" before sending it out, even though he'd probably told them to send it out immediately.
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You didn't know this? Same person who starts twitter wars with anybody that has something bad to say about them at 3am. Same person who has a meeting in person with the Mexican President in one week and instead of waiting til then to discuss the wall, trade, etc starts a trade war via twitter and signing executive orders.

Trump is not only unqualified for the position but a danger to all of us.
 
FrankRamiro said:
Don't you see man,most of these people here criticizing this policy were the ones cheering when the terrorists put down the Tween towers on 11 September,all these lunatics are anti-Americans and anything bad that happens to America they cheer,so if i were you i wouldn't give attention to these creeps or respond to these liberals/libertarian lunatic fanatics here..
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Yeah, that's it retard. Actually, retards like you cheer for shit like that b/c it makes you think you're right about something. But of course, it was one of you that let 9/11 happen on their watch and start a war. Idiot
 
Capt Caveman said:
Yeah, that's it retard. Actually, retards like you cheer for shit like that b/c it makes you think you're right about something. But of course, it was one of you that let 9/11 happen on their watch and start a war. Idiot
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Retard it's you and your F******* family, God damn terrorist,terrorist.

A bit too personal and over the top. Please simmer down.

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