Could you get used to working like this?

trmiv

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So I've got some interest from an employer about a new job. The only thing I didn't like about the place when I interviewed was the work environment. Everyone, and I mean everyone (executives included, no one has an office) sit in these small cubicles with partitions that are waist high. Also there are very few walls in the entire office. It's just this very large open space with no walls and these rows and rows of cubicles with very low walls. Each row is two cubicles that face each other, so other than looking at your monitor, you're basically staring face to face with the person that sits across from you. It basically looks like this except the cubicle walls are about 5" tall instead of the over a foot they appear in that picture.

It was told to me that this setup is supposed to "foster collaboration" and help all employees "feel equal and able to contribute." To me it was just odd. Anyway, this job pays about the same as what I make now, but it's much closer to my house (5 miles instead of 20, no freeway travel), it's also a permanent position (I'm currently a contractor, although once I reach the 6-month mark it's pretty much guaranteed I'll be made full-time).

I'm not sure I could get used to that work setup though because I currently have my own office. I do desktop support, so I have my own locked key-card access office so I can work on computers and store equipment without worry of it walking away. This setup also keeps users from having direct access to us so they must contact the help desk before 2nd level support gets involved, which is something management requires.

Does anyone work at a place like this with the low cubicles? Is it difficult to get used to? It seems like there is a lack of privacy, and it would be a pain to get anything done because people can just walk up and start gabbing any time they want. Plus it seems like it would be loud.
 

tfinch2

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My office has low cubicles. It doesn't bother me one bit.

When I get in today, I'll try to sneak a pic.
 

Vonkhan

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it's not worth it

I'd even settle for a small pay cut if I was given my own office (currently in a shared office)
 

Mr Pickles

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Its a trend now. Rather then closed doors to offices with no windows, new offices are being constructed with glass and less privacy. Same with cubes, they are opening them up. We have something similar. Its 5 feet tall with the 6th foot being all glass around the top. So less privacy in a sense. I don't know. I really feel that the conditions you work in play a major part in how you work. I work in a brand new office so I feel like I'm state of the freaking art. This vs. the last place I worked that was a dump, where I just didnt feel like I was working for a good company when in reality my environment had nothing to do with how well or how poor the company was doing.
 

trmiv

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Well five feet tall is one thing, these are like 3.5 feet, if that. It is a nice office, but it's weird. I guess it was a recent thing though. When I interviewed they said they had just changed the office over like two-weeks before, it previously had the regular high-walled cubicles, and executives had offices. Two of the people I interviewed with sounded less than enthusiastic about the change.
 

jandrews

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At my old work, they did this but to make everyone equal they gave everyone offices. These guys got the idea right but tried to apply it in a cheap manner and making the whole idea a disaster. Giving everyone cubes is idiotic especially considering all the sensitive conversations managers have to have with employees. Also, it may show they are cheap in other areas such as salary increases, be wary.
 

SaltBoy

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We were forced from offices to an open-office environment, and that was probably the best thing that happened in my career. I think with the better opportunities for collaboration, I was able to get a lot more done.

Of course, the waist-high thing is just odd. We had head-high cubes, which was good enough.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: spidey07
lemme guess? Japenese company?

No, British founded company.

In that case, I've worked in environment you're speaking of. It totally sucks. It's extremely loud and you can never really concentrate or focus. Overall it makes you completely miserable. Not only that but everybody and their mother will stop by every 5 minutes "hey, can you do this. Obviously you are doing anything important because you're right here in the open!"
 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Anything like this?

Similar. But imagine the walls were this high.

Wow. Might as well just be big tables then, huh?

Pretty much. I was a little shocked when I walked in the place. I figured that was like a call-center or something. But then they told me that's where everyone sits. They said they had a lot of issues since changed to it with users just walking right up to the support people wanting help without bothering to call the help desk. I'm thinking, "what the hell did you expect?"
 

Mermaidman

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If you watch old TV shows, office workers had desks and no partitions. Any old timers here who remember at what point did cubicles come into style?
 

newb111

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I vote no. Cubicles are fine, but without walls, the distractions would be huge.
 

yllus

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That would be terrible for me. As a developer I need a certain amount of isolation to thrash through a solution. Sometimes I even get up and wander over to uninhabited parts of our office to think out loud to myself.
 

krotchy

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I worked at a company with low cubicles in my division and high walled ones in the division next door.

The people in my division seemed to enjoy themselves alot more, because we could communicate with people much more easily and it was a much more open environment. High cubicles are depressing in my opinion.
 

trmiv

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yllus, yea that's what I'm thinking. Although it's not like my job requires a ton of thought (I'm a desktop support monkey, anyone could do this job), but it is nice to have some privacy sometimes, especially when users demand attention. Sometimes just leaving my office can he hazardous because I'll get the "hey IT guy, I have a question!" stuff all the time. A couple of times I've been in the freaking bathroom at the urinal and I'll hear "you're an IT guy right, well my computer has being acting up lately..." I can't imagine what working in a place like that would be like.
 

Joemonkey

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Its like that here, no biggie. Well, where I work the cube walls are about 5 feet high, but in most other office areas they are about 3.5 feet high. Seems to be fine.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: krotchy
I worked at a company with low cubicles in my division and high walled ones in the division next door.

The people in my division seemed to enjoy themselves alot more, because we could communicate with people much more easily and it was a much more open environment. High cubicles are depressing in my opinion.

I suppose it depends on what you're doing. Like yllus said, as a developer this would be no good. We don't need constant communication. We need to be left alone to think.

(and maybe nef just a little ;))
 

StageLeft

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I have done it before. It's ok but makes it hard to surf adult stuff.

There is a great book I have not read on particular work environments and which formats are best--based on numbers not just assumptions and i Believe it debunks the idea of the "open environment" that you're talking about and which I've worked under. At times it can be helpful but at others just a damn big distraction.