Could there be a legitimate reason to have secret prisons over seas?

[Strk]

Originally posted by: musicman87
To answer the question, I do not believe in interrogations. They should be shot on sight. If you read earlier posts, I have already stated my opinion on the legitimacy of secret prisons.

There is no proof the person did anything.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: musicman87
To answer the question, I do not believe in interrogations. They should be shot on sight. If you read earlier posts, I have already stated my opinion on the legitimacy of secret prisons.

Now THAT is even worse. Not only are you maybe executing innocent people when you don't have to, but you lose any chance at getting useful information out of them. We don't want to kill random low level terrorists, we want their bosses.

 

[musicman87]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: musicman87

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: musicman87

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: musicman87
Oh yes, the Army would say the torture is the most effective means for gathering intelligence....

From the Army Field Manual:

Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear

Hmmm...interesting. Why not just kill 'em if the info is wrong? I guess the standard procedure is to give them candy and porn, and to tell them that they were in the right, that their actions were justified. Just let them give information when they feel like it.:roll:

Actually, the standard procedure is to use your brain and extract information by other means. There is nothing wrong with psychological trickery. And according to interrogators, it works a lot better than torture.

If Democracy has taught us anything, it's that random uninformed people should be listened to and experts should be ignored.

Yes, experts on political correctness and not getting anyone's feelings hurt. It's the random uniformed people that vote, unless there is great expert swing-vote I've not heard about.

So you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to interrogation techniques, but you feel justified because you're in good company with all the other idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

And this, my friends, is the weakness of Democracy. Like Winston Churchill said...

I guess you believe since you watch Law & Order, you know all the techniques of interrogations. Oh, great and mighty Enlightened One, cast down your wisdom upon the idiot masses! Military interrogations should not be defined under the constraints of democracy.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: musicman87
I guess you believe since you watch Law & Order, you know all the techniques of interrogations. Oh, great and mighty Enlightened One, cast down your wisdom upon the idiot masses! Military interrogations should not be defined under the constraints of democracy.

Military interrogations are based on experience and effeciency. And both say torture doesn't work. Perhaps you should stop getting your techniques from Jack Bauer?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: eilute
Is there? or are they purely for the purpose of torture and eluding U.S. law?

Not for an enlightened nation who prides itself on being a beacon of freedom, but this is the Bush Regime's USA we're talking about.

 

[eilute]

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Originally posted by: eilute


Is there? or are they purely for the purpose of torture and eluding U.S. law?

Doesn't secret mean you don't know about them?

Okay. Formerly secret.