Lonyo:
By the way, you should have said 5800Ultra, not 5800, because they are 2 different cards.
And there are quite a few of both cards.
And they suck.
Not compared to the Ti4400 in your box Lonyo.
Let's see:
Ti4400 DX8, 5800 DX9
Ti4400 really slow, 5800 really fast
Ti4400 ~$150, 5800 $400-$500
Ti4400 Doom3=good luck, FX Doom3 faster than all cards except 5900
Ti4400 quiet, FX noisey.
So you gauge a FX as "sucking" because it's louder than your card, but in very other factor a person could consider it's better than your card.
Lonyo, I'd rather have a "sucking" 5800 than an antique 4400 any day of the week.
BTW- the 5800 could be collectable due to very limited release. I don't personally think they should be, but the V5 6000 is a worhtless card from a functional standpoint, but they sell for big money still. A person could actually use a 5800 for a long time to come.