Could my PSU cause this problem.

gilljoy

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Ok back when I first got my system I had abit of a problem with system stability, e.g the System shutting down at random out of the blue. Took the entire system back to the shop I bought it from and they tested it and found no problems.

Reinstalled windows 7 and got a new GPU and its been fine since.

Got a new SSD today and installed it into the system, tried to install windows onto it and I couldnt get it to install, the system got to the first restart and went into a cycle where it would restart get to the loading animation and then restart again.

I though hmmh this isnt right so I unplugged all my HDD and Blu-ray drives, still same problem. Then I thought, ok I'll try it with a different GPU. Put in an old X600 GPU. The problem disappeared. Booted into windows fine and works grand.

I put my GTX 570 into the system and it lets me boot into windows but its really really unstable. Restarts out of the blue if i try and do anything at all on the system.

The GTX 570 has no problems when its not being used with the SSD. If i boot to my standard HDD windows install which isnt plugged in when the SSD is I dont have any problems at all. Sometimes I got the same constant reboot cycle with the HDD but that was due to a damaged DvD drive which I've replaced.

I've got the following system.

i7 930 @ stock
Gigabyte ga-x58-usb3
Corsair XMS 6Gb 1600Mhz DDR3
EVGA GTX 570
Crucial M4 64Gb SSD.
1Tb Samsung Spinpoint F3.
FSP Everest 1010W PSU.

I've heard bad things about this PSU which makes me regret my purchase.

Any idea wither or not the PSU could be causing this problem?
 

Zap

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It could be. The FSP PSU isn't that terrible of a PSU (about 100X better than a Diablotek, LOL) but any PSU of any brand can fail. Besides outright not turning on, one way a PSU can fail is to no longer be able to regulate voltages under load. This would make it possible for the system to be unstable with a higher end card but still work with a lower end card.

The other possibility is that the graphics card is failing.
 

gilljoy

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It could be. The FSP PSU isn't that terrible of a PSU (about 100X better than a Diablotek, LOL) but any PSU of any brand can fail. Besides outright not turning on, one way a PSU can fail is to no longer be able to regulate voltages under load. This would make it possible for the system to be unstable with a higher end card but still work with a lower end card.

The other possibility is that the graphics card is failing.

The thing is I dont have any problems with the GPU if i use it without the SSD :S
 

Slugbait

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Probably not your PSU. Your card is fine. It's most likely your mobo...you need a BIOS update.

Example: a few months ago I was building an HTPC for the living room with some older parts except for the videocard...a GT210. Tried both Vista and Win7, the card just could not be recognized and was a generic VGA adapter (which is worthless for a wide-screen TV). My 8600GTS on the other hand, no problemo. Troubleshot this thing for days before I found a forum post somewhere that gave me a hint...

I had all four memory banks occupied. After pulling one stick, Windows saw the GT210 with no problem. So 8-series and older, it's fine...anything newer, and I can't use all four banks. The solution is to install a newer BIOS...except that there wasn't one, since the board had reached EOL a couple of years ago. So I ended up using the 8600GTS instead (once I got a GTX 460 for the primary HTPC).

I've had similar issues over the years where hardware just didn't want to work correctly, or coexist, and at least two times a BIOS update immediately solved the problem.
 

gilljoy

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Probably not your PSU. Your card is fine. It's most likely your mobo...you need a BIOS update.

Example: a few months ago I was building an HTPC for the living room with some older parts except for the videocard...a GT210. Tried both Vista and Win7, the card just could not be recognized and was a generic VGA adapter (which is worthless for a wide-screen TV). My 8600GTS on the other hand, no problemo. Troubleshot this thing for days before I found a forum post somewhere that gave me a hint...

I had all four memory banks occupied. After pulling one stick, Windows saw the GT210 with no problem. So 8-series and older, it's fine...anything newer, and I can't use all four banks. The solution is to install a newer BIOS...except that there wasn't one, since the board had reached EOL a couple of years ago. So I ended up using the 8600GTS instead (once I got a GTX 460 for the primary HTPC).

I've had similar issues over the years where hardware just didn't want to work correctly, or coexist, and at least two times a BIOS update immediately solved the problem.

Thanks for that I had updated my BIOS to their latest version yesterday before the SSD arrived.

Reverted back to the previous version and no problem at all now :)
 

Slugbait

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Thanks for that I had updated my BIOS to their latest version yesterday before the SSD arrived.

Reverted back to the previous version and no problem at all now :)

Damn, I hate it when the L&G stuff is what's causing the problem. Reminds me of how pissed I got with my G200 Marvel and the L&G drivers back in the day...had to use the original shipping drivers for the entire lifetime that I owned that thing.

But glad it was an actionable hint, and you figured it out. I doubt anybody would have suggested reverting to a previous BIOS.