Could Iran be next

[SKORPI0]

How about North Korea. That dictator needs to go.

 

[sandorski]

Doubtful about Iran.

 

[Nebor]

What is the point of not allowing political/global issues to be discussed in this section?

Because there's a FUCKING section for it so that people like me, who are trying to RELAX by seeing some god damn funny cat pictures don't have to get riled up reading re-fucking-diculous liberal health care nonsense. Get your politics out of my off topic.

 

[ProfJohn]

Because there's a FUCKING section for it so that people like me, who are trying to RELAX by seeing some god damn funny cat pictures don't have to get riled up reading re-fucking-diculous liberal health care nonsense. Get your politics out of my off topic.

Here...

Happy now?

 

[MotF Bane]

What is the point of not allowing political/global issues to be discussed in this section?

Because there is a section dedicated to such issues, created and kept for the purpose of keeping this crap out of Off Topic.

 

[Nebor]

Here...

Happy now?

No. The US Army sees fit to block your image host. :\

 

[ProfJohn]

It's just a icanhascheezeburger cat pic.

 

[Venix]

I am new here, what is wrong with having this in this section.

Why do you keep asking questions without using a question mark.

The only other person I've seen fail at question mark usage like this was banned troll DVK916/StatsManD/UCDAggies (a guy named Doug from California, incidentally). He also talked about destroying WalMart and other large corporations like you did earlier in this thread. And spammed the board with socialist bullshit much like your healthcare thread.

But of course you're new here, so that must just be a coincidence.

 

[Nebor]

It's just a icanhascheezeburger cat pic.

Oh god why did you tell me?! Now I want to has it so bad!

 

[Engineer]

What is the point of not allowing political/global issues to be discussed in this section?

Don't know but we have a P&N shithole...er....forum for this type (as well as the healthcare thread) of stuff.

Other than that, welcome to AT! :biggrin:

 

[Pocatello]

There is little chance that Iran will be like Egypt. The Iranian internal security was ruthless last year against the demonstrators. I really hope there is democracy in Egypt, it will be very difficult. Most people want first before democracy is affordable foods, good jobs, security, and stability in their daily lives. It has taken the Western countries a long time to get where they're at, there has been two world wars, and democracy in those countries are still a work in progress, the same with the U.S. Egypt is facing a very difficult challenge, how to provide what the people want, while facing dwindling natural resources and an explosion of growth in population. The Chinese has been partially successful in giving what the people want sans democracy, it's still facing unrest in the rural areas where millions of people are still living in poverty. The peasants may be stupid and slow to anger, but there are many of them, and when they're angry, you better run for cover.

 

[Sea Moose]

Because there is a section dedicated to such issues, created and kept for the purpose of keeping this crap out of Off Topic.

I vote there be a religion sub forum. All the religious nuts can talk about talking bushes and wizards till their little hearts are content.

 

[squirrel dog]

Iran is more like Nazi Germany was.The answer to political unrest in Iran is to eliminate it.

 

[nageov3t]

had the Egyptian military sided with Mubarack and opened fire on civilians, there's a good chance the revolution might have broken apart.

in Iran, the military seems to be supporting the sitting government.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Egypt's recent success should reignite protests in Iran, but as previously noted the Iranian Army and the Islamic militias shall not stand idly by as the Egyptian Army did in Cairo.

Yemen is another state in flux...

 

[Lemon law]

I have already been on long record that the Iranian Mullahs control of Iran will go sooner or later. Iranian Mullah's are out of step with its large younger population. And without the Mullah's Iran, already does have a democracy. And if the Mullah's ever go, the joy in the West may be short lived, simply because the people of Iran are committed to the nuclear peace time generation of power.

Beyond that, other than the fact the Mullah's suppress political freedom in Iran, there is not that extra economic corruption element like there is in Egypt and Tunisia. And if anything, its the moderates like Rafsanjani that are economically corrupt.

But as old line Arab leaders go and are replaced by new younger leaders interested in building up their nations economies, the Mullahs of Iran whose only remaining function seems to be to confiscate Satellite dish's and X Boxes, are going to find themselves increasing isolated.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

what would be the purpose of having an islamic revolution to replace an islamic revolution?

 

[hal2kilo]

Jordan is probably next or perhaps Saudi Arabia.

The best thing we can do to help them along is by building lots of Walmarts and introducing them to cheap Chinese goods.

Jordan yes, Saudi Arabia, good luck with that.

 

[hal2kilo]

Military needs to be with the people. The Revolutionary Guard is not with the people and is too powerful.

 

[Lemon law]

We maybe need to take a lesson from the fall of the Shah of Iran. For many years he had every element of organized government on his side, and gradually he pissed off all his supporters. And one fine day the Shah found out he was universally hated and no one in his own country would lift a finger to support him. So he took his money and ran. The fate of many a mid-east leader before and after. And to some extent we can say much the same happened with Mubarak.

To some extent we can also say the reason Iran had an Islamic inspired revolution is the fact that a highly respected Iranian Ayatollah had been in exile in France for decades constantly working against the Shah of Iran. So when that call went out among the people of Iran, the exiled Ayatollah was somewhat an automatic shoe in.

Egypt has some exiles also, but by in large they command no credibility with the Egyptian people, so Egypt is very unlikely to Islamic route.

But lately, the Mullah's of Iran are rapidly becoming the New Shah of Iran, using old line torture practiced by the Shah to rig elections, their economic measures are now an epic fail, their current Ayatollah is unpopular, and younger Iranians that constitute more than 50% of the population are really questioning why their Mullah led government is allowed to continue. Worse yet, the sons and daughters of prominent Iranian politicians across the political spectrum protesting the rigging of the last election were viciously tortured by the Mullah and returned either dead or maimed for life. Which is exactly what lost the Shah of Iran his job. So yes, I would say its a matter of time for the Mullahs. What is lacking now in Iran a cause to rally around. The same thing may happen in Saudi Arabia and maybe events in Yemen might trigger the calls.

But making exact predictions is impossible, but the trend lines are crystal clear.

 

[Karl Agathon]

if the good Iranian people try what the Egyptians did, there would be a complete bloodbath. The Iranian forces would shoot all thsoe people like ducks in a barrel.

 

[hal2kilo]

We maybe need to take a lesson from the fall of the Shah of Iran. For many years he had every element of organized government on his side, and gradually he pissed off all his supporters. And one fine day the Shah found out he was universally hated and no one in his own country would lift a finger to support him. So he took his money and ran. The fate of many a mid-east leader before and after. And to some extent we can say much the same happened with Mubarak.

To some extent we can also say the reason Iran had an Islamic inspired revolution is the fact that a highly respected Iranian Ayatollah had been in exile in France for decades constantly working against the Shah of Iran. So when that call went out among the people of Iran, the exiled Ayatollah was somewhat an automatic shoe in.

Egypt has some exiles also, but by in large they command no credibility with the Egyptian people, so Egypt is very unlikely to Islamic route.

But lately, the Mullah's of Iran are rapidly becoming the New Shah of Iran, using old line torture practiced by the Shah to rig elections, their economic measures are now an epic fail, their current Ayatollah is unpopular, and younger Iranians that constitute more than 50% of the population are really questioning why their Mullah led government is allowed to continue. Worse yet, the sons and daughters of prominent Iranian politicians across the political spectrum protesting the rigging of the last election were viciously tortured by the Mullah and returned either dead or maimed for life. Which is exactly what lost the Shah of Iran his job. So yes, I would say its a matter of time for the Mullahs. What is lacking now in Iran a cause to rally around. The same thing may happen in Saudi Arabia and maybe events in Yemen might trigger the calls.

But making exact predictions is impossible, but the trend lines are crystal clear.

Only when those who are in power with the government they are involved in get disgusted, do things really change, at least in modern day. Even if the "people" had guns. If the military follows the leadership, nothings going to change.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I think you have it backwards. Iran is not going to follow Egypt, Egypt is going to follow what happened in the 1970s in Iran. It will become more Islamic and extreme and cut itself off more from the west.

Not according to TareX......he claims that Muslim democracy is the same as democracy in the United States!In fact he claims that principles of our democracy were fashioned after Muslim democracy...go figure...

 

[Lemon law]

Only when those who are in power with the government they are involved in get disgusted, do things really change, at least in modern day. Even if the "people" had guns. If the military follows the leadership, nothings going to change.

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Ah yes, precisely the problem, the leaders and followers of a countries military are recruited from the general population of a given country. When the upper ranks of a given army become disenchanted with what their fearless leader are doing to their famdamilies, it just takes a few top leaders to say NYET to their fearless leader. And just like that, the jig is often up for the fearless leader.

Learn it and live it, the army is staffed by the people of any given country.

But still, we are seeing history, the first internet inspired revolution in world history. And it couldn't have happened to a bigger rat fink than Mubarak.

 

[Lemon law]

Not according to TareX......he claims that Muslim democracy is the same as democracy in the United States!In fact he claims that principles of our democracy were fashioned after Muslim democracy...go figure...

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Its somewhat laughable for JEDIY to demonize Tarex, when Israel is a democracy of only thieves and terrorists. Israel does not even pretend to have an animal farm democracy where some people have more rights than others, they are a pigocracy where 30% of their people have no human rights at all. Even a newly born child is a criminal based on birth. Tell this forum again JEDIY, where that Israeli practice even remotely qualifies for the word democracy????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The lack of democracy history of Israel is already written, the history of the new Egypt revolution is yet to be written. Egypt cannot possibly do worse than Israel.