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Could I lose my job over iTunes? :(

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Codewiz said:
Really? I think you are talking mostly out of your ass(from your very narrow POV). I hope you realize that all federal gov't agencies don't have the same rules.

Yes, Yahoo is banned by almost all. But to say something like all IM programs are banned is just stupid. I happen to be looking at my jabber compliant client using my command sponsored jabber IM server. OH NOES!!!!! Fire my command for providing it.

As for iTunes, that is funny, my command left itunes on my Mac. So iTunes isn't banned outright.

As for the iPhone, that might be the case in the DoD, but I sure haven't heard that as a Federal Government wide directive.

And odds are he won't be fired. It took two offenses of looking up porn here for one guy to get fired. Could he be fired? Sure, but odds are against it.
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You are right; I should have specified Army, not fed govt. All of my assumptions were based on Army policy. I should know better than to assume that other areas of the Fed govt would have similar policies.

You are correct; odds are very good that he won't be fired.

And again, you are correct with the IM comment. In my head I was thinking Yahoo, MSN, AOl, etc. I apologize as I should have been clearer about that.

I said nothing about iTunes being banned, however, I should have specified if it isn't approved by his command/agency it is a violation (which was my assumption based on reaction stated in the OP)

And you are right about the phone comment. I based it on my narrow point of view on interaction with Army agencies.
 
at the core of the problem they're not concerned about itunes, they are concerned about the virus that could cripple their network.
 
Codewiz said:
Really? I think you are talking mostly out of your ass(from your very narrow POV). I hope you realize that all federal gov't agencies don't have the same rules.

Yes, Yahoo is banned by almost all. But to say something like all IM programs are banned is just stupid. I happen to be looking at my jabber compliant client using my command sponsored jabber IM server. OH NOES!!!!! Fire my command for providing it.

As for iTunes, that is funny, my command left itunes on my Mac. So iTunes isn't banned outright.

As for the iPhone, that might be the case in the DoD, but I sure haven't heard that as a Federal Government wide directive.

And odds are he won't be fired. It took two offenses of looking up porn here for one guy to get fired. Could he be fired? Sure, but odds are against it.
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He's right on for DoD. Any kind of removable storage media is banned, due to a combination of threats to system security, and threats to OPSEC when flash drives were found in A-stan with OPORDs and maps on them. You know when you plug a flash drive into a regular Vista machine, the little bubble pops up in the lower right hand corner saying "Installing device driver for removable storage..." Well when you do it on a DoD computer, it logs you out and locks the machine. Also all of our ports are managed and registered to the MAC addresses of the machines that are supposed to be plugged into them to prevent people from plugging in personal machines. So if I want to take my laptop back to the conference room, I'd better not plug it into the ethernet jack back there, because it will kill that port until someone from DOIM comes out to fix it.

I walked into my office 2 weeks ago to find a civilian using my computer. "What do you think you're doing," I asked. He said, "Oh I'm just using your computer to get in the back door of the 1SG's computer." I'm alarmed by his terminology and the general sense of ineptitude he's displaying, so I circle around my desk to see he has my Windows\System folder open. "Well I have some work I need to do... now." So off he goes. I sit down, log in, and ever since then if I can't launch Officer documents from Windows Explorer. They can be saved in My Documents, on the Desktop, on the Share drive, wherever, and when I double click them, the appropriate application (excel, word, whatever) pops up, but gives an error "cannot locate (file name.)" I have to open the application, then go to file> open, then locate the file I want to open. So I'm like, "hey, this is all fucked up." He looks at it for a couple minutes, makes a phone call, then gives me the standard DOIM response, "Oh yeah, we see this all the time. This machine needs to be reimaged."

Fucking die in a fucking fire you retarded mother fucker. I had a perfectly fine computer, then you wander in with an Admin level CAC card and instead of fixing ANYTHING you fuck up EVERYTHING and say everything needs to be reimaged. You realize we KILL people for a living, right?

Coming from a civilian IT environment, going to the .mil is truly maddening.
 
mugs said:
Seems like losing the company provided phone would hurt the company more than the employee since the employee isn't allowed to use it for personal calls.
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Nope.. would definitely hurt the employees. The ones that got company provided cells were sales people. They relied on their phones to do their sales. If they couldn't be reached except in an office, they'd be boned out of sales, commissions, quotas, etc. Eventually they'd lose their job due to loss of productivity and it would be entirely their fault. They didn't lose their phone after 1 warning. usually they got 5 or 6 warnings not to use their phone for personal business.

if talking to the wife and telling her "i miss u" on a company phone is worth losing your job... go right ahead. not my issue.
 
Full admin rights for me. I can do what the hell I want! Just no email archieving due to compliance...and the ease in which I can just copy the file home

Koing
 
I heard a rumor that someone at work that was using itunes also had gay porn on their computer. I think Aimster got fired for the porn.
 
As an IT tech, it frustrates me when people bypass security to install crap. We are constantly detecting junk being installed on PCs yet we can't do anything about it as we have an IT manager who is too scared of any changes (such as adding extra policies, or going over to uninstall it etc). A non admin should not be able to install stuff, period. If people figure out how to they are blatantly bypassing corporate security, and imo should be given a warning.

A security escort or confiscation is a little over the top though. If it was up to me we'd put deep freeze on all the machines. Just need to find a way to properly update them.
 
I still have my job.

Laptop was turned over to IA (information assurance). I assumed it meant Internal Affairs, but no.

Was lectured multiple times. Had to correct them several times telling them I did not bypass any firewall to install the software. All I did was go to the websites and click download.

One of the computer technicians told me not to worry about it and laughed, but he is not part of IA. He just said he's seen far worse and half the office probably is committing a security violation if they want to label it as that.

I haven't heard anything more. I did get a lot of warnings like I said. People think I "hacked" into the system .... whatever

I'll update you if I hear from the IA people. Till then I am saving all my money.
 
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