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DigDog

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Jun 3, 2011
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i hate to admit it but, my recent M$ experience has been rather pleasant. Is what i say to YOU, certainly not what i would say to microsoft.

W7 was fantastic. I dont know why they never did a Windows 8.
W10 was also really good. Not as much of a jump between XP and 7, but a very solid OS.
of course, i had to install a whole bunch of aftermarket fixes and software to make it work like *I* want it to. And i would give M$ an earful about all the nonsense they installed in the default build, god knows, X-Bar, Cortana, the microsoft store (say this name in a really whiny voice), but hey, they did do LTSC which essentially it's the enterprise version, and that kept me going until 2 weeks or so ago, where i moved to W11.

Same grief for the first 2/3 days, have to burn some holy incense to ask the gods why on earth, heaven or hell did someone decide that the Start button needs to be in the center of the spacebar.
You know, i am a reasonable guy. But i think the individual responsible should be caught, tried, found guilty, and sentenced to be burned at the stake.

Fortunately Windows UI mods are like mods for games on Nexus Mods, you can't turn around without some modder having already fixed the problem before you've actually bought the thing.

If you are willing to untick a whole lot of "disable animations on the desktop" options to make your OS work, then W11 LTSC is probably the best you can get now. Without needing to compile your own MP3 player app.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Not sure if you're joking, Windows 8 was their attempt at taking over the tablet space.
Everything in Win10 & Win11 is worse than Win7.
 
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repoman0

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Without needing to compile your own MP3 player app.
You know this but for the record building your own software as a regular Linux user doesn’t happen anymore unless you want to. Package management via something like apt is way better than windows.

I keep meaning to give gaming on my mint install a more serious try. I use Ubuntu full time for work (software dev) and I’ve become a lot more comfortable with Gnome 3 than anything MS or Apple have ever done.

edit: just realized I said basically the same thing in here five months ago lol.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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People act like you spend all day in a terminal when running gnu/linux. You can if you want, but you can also remove it, and live a fully functional life without a terminal. I use a terminal sometimes just cause it's easier, but it isn't essential. I haven't used windows since vista was still in support.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I think Toronto Maple Leafs will win the cup this year, if that happens, it's also going to be the year of the Linux desktop, and self sustaining fusion will be ready by 4th quarter of 2025.
 
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Same grief for the first 2/3 days, have to burn some holy incense to ask the gods why on earth, heaven or hell did someone decide that the Start button needs to be in the center of the spacebar.
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the center start button, but those things are easy fixes. And it's easy enough to turn off other features you don't want.

My one big complaint is in the privacy settings stuff: sometimes, it's almost too fine grained with choices and it becomes hard to say what each little toggle is doing.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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People act like you spend all day in a terminal when running gnu/linux. You can if you want, but you can also remove it, and live a fully functional life without a terminal. I use a terminal sometimes just cause it's easier, but it isn't essential. I haven't used windows since vista was still in support.
The best things microsoft has in windows are Powershell and WSL.
 
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QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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People act like you spend all day in a terminal when running gnu/linux. You can if you want, but you can also remove it, and live a fully functional life without a terminal. I use a terminal sometimes just cause it's easier, but it isn't essential. I haven't used windows since vista was still in support.

Linux has came a long way since I 1st installed it a few decades ago. If it had better software support, I'd probably run it. Compared to the 1st time Installed Red Had way back then, I installed Mint last year and was shocked at how everything in my system just worked, sound, wifi, all that. And I didn't have open terminal once, or even install a package. The fact we're at a stage where a n00b could more than likely install Linux without any help is really mind blowing. My 1st go around was diasterous, I'd been on computers since a TRS-80 in the late 70s and boy Linux was a bitch and a half.

The fact it's maybe easier to install now than Windows 95 is really remarkable. I never expected Linux and user friendly to be interchangeable. And if you're hardcore you can still open a terminal and have access to do everything under the sun.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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10 & 11 have been very good to me overall. But Linux won't run a bunch of software I use daily, such as both of my preferred photo editing programs. Games. Have to futz to get a sub-par Tidal experience, etc..

Just not worth the hassle. Not enough software developers support Linux that I use.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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10 & 11 have been very good to me overall. But Linux won't run a bunch of software I use daily, such as both of my preferred photo editing programs. Games. Have to futz to get a sub-par Tidal experience, etc..

Just not worth the hassle. Not enough software developers support Linux that I use.

Which distro did you try with?
 

jmagg

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Nov 21, 2001
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I think Toronto Maple Leafs will win the cup this year, if that happens, it's also going to be the year of the Linux desktop, and self sustaining fusion will be ready by 4th quarter of 2025.
Florida Panthers hockey gives the Jamaican bobsled team hope, but my Mint install continues to be trouble free.
 

thedighubs

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many thanks for the replies. I am so glad and i am just overwhelmed!
Need to go out to catch the train - but will read more thouroughly later the day

have a great day.:)