Originally posted by: Arkaign
Find me a car (stock from the dealer), that matches the Z06 in handling *and* straight-line performance for under $80k, and I'll eat my hat.
Perhaps the ultra-rare GTR when it comes out, who knows. I'm thinking it will be a pretty close matchup. If those runs at the ring are real times, it probably slightly exceeds the Z06 on technical courses, and slightly loses to the Z06 on a flat-out drag race.
Sportauto with the famous driver Horst has driven the new Skyline on N-ring.
*7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07)*
Horst von Saurma, chief editor of sport auto magazine, completed about 100 kms with the new Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. Best time he achieved was a 7:50 on a partiallly wet track especially at one of the key passages so called Kesselchen.
With all the electronic aids the handling is absolutely perfect, the driver doens´t feel how the drive-by-wire system really works as the GT-R stay on track like on rails, always has grip, doesn´t lose control, higly computerized and a perfect racer for the street. A time less than 7:40 is pretty much optimistic, 7:50 shows the true potential of the car. And when the price stays at the announced level, it is a real bargain.
Originally posted by: lurk3r
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: Estrella
Stock tires? And this was posted a long time ago in the old forums.
I found the answer to my own question. He has a run on the stock tires @11.22s.
This car is an excellent performer but, it does not turn heads. It doesn't LOOK like a nice car.
I just wish a Corvette could take corners like a 2005 A4 Cabriolet 3.0 QUATTRO.
/cough delusional
And there are no cheap upgrades for the Z06, anything that would help its performance is typically in the high four figures.
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Find me a car (stock from the dealer), that matches the Z06 in handling *and* straight-line performance for under $80k, and I'll eat my hat.
Perhaps the ultra-rare GTR when it comes out, who knows. I'm thinking it will be a pretty close matchup. If those runs at the ring are real times, it probably slightly exceeds the Z06 on technical courses, and slightly loses to the Z06 on a flat-out drag race.
Sport Auto (Horst van Saurma), the independent magazine that takes super cars to the Nordschleife apparently did a 7:50 with the GT-R.
http://www.rennteam.com/showfl...00332&page=0&fpart=all
Sportauto with the famous driver Horst has driven the new Skyline on N-ring.
*7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07)*
Horst von Saurma, chief editor of sport auto magazine, completed about 100 kms with the new Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. Best time he achieved was a 7:50 on a partiallly wet track especially at one of the key passages so called Kesselchen.
With all the electronic aids the handling is absolutely perfect, the driver doens´t feel how the drive-by-wire system really works as the GT-R stay on track like on rails, always has grip, doesn´t lose control, higly computerized and a perfect racer for the street. A time less than 7:40 is pretty much optimistic, 7:50 shows the true potential of the car. And when the price stays at the announced level, it is a real bargain.
Now keeping the above in mind, the Z06 did a 7:49 with the same driver. I would say the GT-R is the closest rival to the Z06. The average driver is likely going to set better performance figures with the GT-R, but at a $10k+ premium, you could take enough driving school to offset that and make yourself a better driver.
Some others:
F430 7:55
997TT 7:54
Ford GT 7:52
GT3 7:48
599GTB 7:47
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Find me a car (stock from the dealer), that matches the Z06 in handling *and* straight-line performance for under $80k, and I'll eat my hat.
Perhaps the ultra-rare GTR when it comes out, who knows. I'm thinking it will be a pretty close matchup. If those runs at the ring are real times, it probably slightly exceeds the Z06 on technical courses, and slightly loses to the Z06 on a flat-out drag race.
Sport Auto (Horst van Saurma), the independent magazine that takes super cars to the Nordschleife apparently did a 7:50 with the GT-R.
http://www.rennteam.com/showfl...00332&page=0&fpart=all
Sportauto with the famous driver Horst has driven the new Skyline on N-ring.
*7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07)*
Horst von Saurma, chief editor of sport auto magazine, completed about 100 kms with the new Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. Best time he achieved was a 7:50 on a partiallly wet track especially at one of the key passages so called Kesselchen.
With all the electronic aids the handling is absolutely perfect, the driver doens´t feel how the drive-by-wire system really works as the GT-R stay on track like on rails, always has grip, doesn´t lose control, higly computerized and a perfect racer for the street. A time less than 7:40 is pretty much optimistic, 7:50 shows the true potential of the car. And when the price stays at the announced level, it is a real bargain.
Now keeping the above in mind, the Z06 did a 7:49 with the same driver. I would say the GT-R is the closest rival to the Z06. The average driver is likely going to set better performance figures with the GT-R, but at a $10k+ premium, you could take enough driving school to offset that and make yourself a better driver.
Some others:
F430 7:55
997TT 7:54
Ford GT 7:52
GT3 7:48
599GTB 7:47
I'm thinking that the wet track condition makes for at least a second in lap time, probably a bit more. But you're right, they're damn close. It proves the excellence of the Z06, a simple and elegant design, as opposed to the technical overload of something as complicated as a GTR.
Love that GT3 time!
Anyone take a Veyron through that course? I'm purely curious as to how it deals with technical circuits.