I'm curious about a few things from a long-term perspective...I really hope this doesn't erupt into more flames, but, I really really want to know if anyone else has thought about this. As the mod said in the stickied post at the top, with a topic like this, tensions are high on both sides. I ask that if you have anything insightful to say to my views below, please do so, but I will NOT tolerate sarcastic one-line remarks, conspiracy theories from either side with no facts and just angry words. Again, I'm truly interested in what you might have to say in response to my observations, but if this is going to degenerate into another hate-thread, I'll sadly have to ignore anything further that'll posted in this thread. As many of you can understand, the aggrevation of seeing your question answered with childish "bush sucks!" or "you anti-war idiots" is enough to make you ignore the thread permenantly.
With that out of the way (sorry, just had to get that off my chest), let me get to the meat of what I want to ask.
A lot of anti-war folks say that, OK, at the very least, we should hold off until we know for a fact that "this" or "that" is going on in Iraq - that we're just going based on assumptions, suspicions, and rumors. This really hits me as having a parallel to many people arguing in this day and age that America knew about what was going on in Germany in WW2 and didn't do enough to stop the Holocaust. 50 years from now, are we going to have people blaming the US, saying "America knew what Saddam was building up and doing to his own people, why didn't they step in sooner?" By the way, as for the argument of us not doing more in Germany, I'm just pointing out that people are still upset about it today. Whether or not it's a legitimate complaint is beyond me. Unlike many other people, I'll readily admit that I haven't researched that topic in great depth. Even if I had, information from both sides would be highly skewed and one could easily argue either side with no absolute conclusion.
Another thing I contemplate: people look back now and talk about how it was wrong to appease Hilter before WW2 by conceding to his demands for land. Are people going to say the same thing about the ridiculous nature of the UN investigations? I mean, whether or not you think Saddam was hiding weapons of mass destruction from the rest of the world, you've got to admit that whole situation was a freakin' circus. I know Bush-bashing is very "in" right now and popular, but I'm more tempted to start bashing the members of the UN - these are the people who make the big decisions for the major countries?
Keep in mind that anti-war sentiments were heavy during WW2 as well. People were isolationists and didn't much care to partake in what they saw as "Europe's problem". Heck, how many people do we have these days that still argue whether or not Pearl Harbor could've been prevented, i.e. that it was just a "convenient excuse" for America to go to war? But, looking back, can we honestly say that our involvement in WW2 was a mistake? Will Americans say the same, or differently, in the future?
I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'm very curious as to what people will think about this war 20, 30, 40, even 50 years down the line, considering how we now view previous military engagements and the choices made back then.
Please don't make me regret asking these questions, folks. I'd love to discuss this, if we could all keep it civilized.
With that out of the way (sorry, just had to get that off my chest), let me get to the meat of what I want to ask.
A lot of anti-war folks say that, OK, at the very least, we should hold off until we know for a fact that "this" or "that" is going on in Iraq - that we're just going based on assumptions, suspicions, and rumors. This really hits me as having a parallel to many people arguing in this day and age that America knew about what was going on in Germany in WW2 and didn't do enough to stop the Holocaust. 50 years from now, are we going to have people blaming the US, saying "America knew what Saddam was building up and doing to his own people, why didn't they step in sooner?" By the way, as for the argument of us not doing more in Germany, I'm just pointing out that people are still upset about it today. Whether or not it's a legitimate complaint is beyond me. Unlike many other people, I'll readily admit that I haven't researched that topic in great depth. Even if I had, information from both sides would be highly skewed and one could easily argue either side with no absolute conclusion.
Another thing I contemplate: people look back now and talk about how it was wrong to appease Hilter before WW2 by conceding to his demands for land. Are people going to say the same thing about the ridiculous nature of the UN investigations? I mean, whether or not you think Saddam was hiding weapons of mass destruction from the rest of the world, you've got to admit that whole situation was a freakin' circus. I know Bush-bashing is very "in" right now and popular, but I'm more tempted to start bashing the members of the UN - these are the people who make the big decisions for the major countries?
Keep in mind that anti-war sentiments were heavy during WW2 as well. People were isolationists and didn't much care to partake in what they saw as "Europe's problem". Heck, how many people do we have these days that still argue whether or not Pearl Harbor could've been prevented, i.e. that it was just a "convenient excuse" for America to go to war? But, looking back, can we honestly say that our involvement in WW2 was a mistake? Will Americans say the same, or differently, in the future?
I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'm very curious as to what people will think about this war 20, 30, 40, even 50 years down the line, considering how we now view previous military engagements and the choices made back then.
Please don't make me regret asking these questions, folks. I'd love to discuss this, if we could all keep it civilized.