Correcting Racism

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Atheus

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Yeah, redistribution of wealth worked out really swell for most of the countries in Western Europe and nearly every industrialized nation on the face of the planet!

Oh wait, it did.

I will make this promise to you and Creig. If you guys work hard, and go get a life skill that someone is willing to pay you the kind of money you want, you will stop having this fantasy about getting everyone elses money. You will have your own, and be proud that you earned it. :thumbsup:

Right. I'm quite well off myself and have no need for anyone else's money. If you guys read up about the rest of the world you'll see that a redistributive system works quite well.

I just looked it up - in the US you pay 25% for an average salary and the top rate is 35%. We in the UK pay 22% for an average salary and the top rate is 40%. The French pay 14%, 30%, or 40%. Yea there's a difference in top rate but is it enough to call the European systems redistributive and yours non-redistributive?

/edit: I guess the US spends more on the military... does that alone account for the difference in public services?
 

Dragula22

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: Dragula22
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I don't think racism will ever go away in my lifetime but I wish it would because I've already been told by 4 different women that they had a problem with me being mixed (spaniard/black) before, during, or after I started dating them. Knife in the heart.

Everyone thinks I'm Cuban at first glance. It's not until I say I'm half black does it become a problem.

That's not racism. That's different tastes.

That's choosing a lollipop over chocolate.

That's racism. And he needs to find better women.

Okay, yeah i can't read. it's racism.
 

Bird222

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Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?

That depends. Do you mean I'm the same person I am now only I suddenly turned physically into a black person? Or that suddenly I become an uneducated, unemployed, dope peddling thug with his waistband around his knees who fathered five children with four women?

The problem many blacks have in America is a cultural problem, not a color problem. See any previous thread on the exact same damn topic where a very high percentage of black immigrants do very well in the US while US born blacks do not. If racism was the systemic problem some of you claim, then black immigrants shouldn't be able to find jobs or become educated either.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Bird222
Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?

That depends. Do you mean I'm the same person I am now only I suddenly turned physically into a black person? Or that suddenly I become an uneducated, unemployed, dope peddling thug with his waistband around his knees who fathered five children with four women?

The problem many blacks have in America is a cultural problem, not a color problem. See any previous thread on the exact same damn topic where a very high percentage of black immigrants do very well in the US while US born blacks do not. If racism was the systemic problem some of you claim, then black immigrants shouldn't be able to find jobs or become educated either.

Because being that's what would happen if you became black :roll:
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Bird222
Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?

That depends. Do you mean I'm the same person I am now only I suddenly turned physically into a black person? Or that suddenly I become an uneducated, unemployed, dope peddling thug with his waistband around his knees who fathered five children with four women?

The problem many blacks have in America is a cultural problem, not a color problem. See any previous thread on the exact same damn topic where a very high percentage of black immigrants do very well in the US while US born blacks do not. If racism was the systemic problem some of you claim, then black immigrants shouldn't be able to find jobs or become educated either.

Because being that's what would happen if you became black :roll:

Moral of the story; don't live in Minnesota.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Yeah, redistribution of wealth worked out really swell for most of the countries in Western Europe and nearly every industrialized nation on the face of the planet!

Oh wait, it did.

I will make this promise to you and Creig. If you guys work hard, and go get a life skill that someone is willing to pay you the kind of money you want, you will stop having this fantasy about getting everyone elses money. You will have your own, and be proud that you earned it. :thumbsup:

Right. I'm quite well off myself and have no need for anyone else's money. If you guys read up about the rest of the world you'll see that a redistributive system works quite well.

I just looked it up - in the US you pay 25% for an average salary and the top rate is 35%. We in the UK pay 22% for an average salary and the top rate is 40%. The French pay 14%, 30%, or 40%. Yea there's a difference in top rate but is it enough to call the European systems redistributive and yours non-redistributive?

/edit: I guess the US spends more on the military... does that alone account for the difference in public services?

There are other taxes that you aren't taking into account, VAT for one. (which is about 17%)
 

Starbuck1975

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Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?
Dishonest question...there are many white people I wouldn't change places with either...has nothing to do with race...has everything to do with the decisions they made, and the quality of life resulting from their decisions.

There are some black guys I would gladly trade places with...Chris Rock would be one of them.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Bird222
Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?

That depends. Do you mean I'm the same person I am now only I suddenly turned physically into a black person? Or that suddenly I become an uneducated, unemployed, dope peddling thug with his waistband around his knees who fathered five children with four women?

The problem many blacks have in America is a cultural problem, not a color problem. See any previous thread on the exact same damn topic where a very high percentage of black immigrants do very well in the US while US born blacks do not. If racism was the systemic problem some of you claim, then black immigrants shouldn't be able to find jobs or become educated either.

Because being that's what would happen if you became black :roll:

Moral of the story; don't live in Minnesota.

I wouldn't recommend it either. Otherwise what's your point, wannabe?
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Here's a question. As Chris Rock said, 'How many of you white guys would switch places with a black guy'?
Dishonest question...there are many white people I wouldn't change places with either...has nothing to do with race...has everything to do with the decisions they made, and the quality of life resulting from their decisions.

There are some black guys I would gladly trade places with...Chris Rock would be one of them.

I think the assumption is that you would be the same person on the inside.