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Pr0d1gy

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Both of you fail utterly & completely at reading comprehension. On the Right Fringe, both breathing & raving are apparently autonomic functions, lucky for you.

I know. At no point in that article does it say that Communism or Socialism is better than our system, only that the people running our system are making it look better...which is an undeniable fact.

It's pitiful that they even try this stuff in a forum where everyone can read the print for themselves and see the obviousness of the truth. Yet, here they are blathering away about CommuSocialism as if it were 1982.
 

Matt1970

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I know. At no point in that article does it say that Communism or Socialism is better than our system, only that the people running our system are making it look better...which is an undeniable fact.

It's pitiful that they even try this stuff in a forum where everyone can read the print for themselves and see the obviousness of the truth. Yet, here they are blathering away about CommuSocialism as if it were 1982.

Context? Maybe you need some bold.

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or The New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?
 

Pr0d1gy

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Context? Maybe you need some bold.

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or The New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

So now you're just hoping nobody is actually reading the article? Here was the actual point of the article:

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Wall Street Journal editorial page between 2000 and 2011, and someone in the same period who read only the collected columns of Paul Krugman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of the current economic crisis? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

Nice triple post, btw. I remember my first day on the internet, too.
 

Veliko

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Context? Maybe you need some bold.

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or The New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

So the writer asked a question.

What was his answer to that question?
 

Jhhnn

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Read your own article.

Context? Maybe you need some bold.

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader’s Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or The New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?

Double & triple down- amazing. Here's your sign-

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cwjerome

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It's not like being a Superpower has done us much good lately. [.......]

None of what you said changes my point.

You have to start thinking on your own and use some common sense. In other words, you do not need to kiss the balls of partisan hacks and one-sided ideologues like Krugman. It’s not conservative to recognize that by nearly every metric, the US dramatically increased and/or passed every other country on earth in terms of political, economic, and military power from 1940-1946. Krugman can cherry pick a couple charts to supposedly prove some nonexistent point, but nothing can change the fact that post-WWII, the US became a massive superpower that enjoyed a very distinct position in the world… at the top. That is an advantage. If you don’t believe things were rigged in our favor, you’re on crack. The US was a trained athlete with a 10 meter head start while the rest of the world was barely pushing their bruised bodies across the starting line.

There's still profit in hiring Americans, just not as much profit. If we want to take lessons in how to make capitalism work for more people, we have examples in Japan & Germany, particularly Germany, where corporate responsibility isn't defined as being solely to the shareholders, but to communities and the whole nation.

In those countries, "You didn't build that" is axiomatic, understood- they know they depend on each other, and act accordingly. We seem to have forgotten that over the last 30 years or so.

I happen to believe corporate responsibility does go beyond the shareholders, but that doesn't mean I believe a heavy-handed government should enforce the liberal fantasy version of corporate responsibility via government extortion and control through oppressive taxes, regs, and laws. Capitalism will best work for more people by being organized to fuel our economic and technological base through educational programs that prepare and motivate people to be productive citizens. We need to get people to be citizens in every sense of the word: A deep conviction in community/public good.

For us to fix the government we have to fix ourselves... we are the government. For us to promote good public policy and have to promote good private lives. Citizenship means much more than simply living here.

Combining this concept of citizenship with productiveness is unstoppable. Making productive citizens goes back to everything I was saying earlier about education and training. We need much more of it because the world is changing and the economies are changing and for us to remain productive we need to chase the jobs of the future and stay on the cutting edge. We are already a nation of risk-takers, entrepreneurs, and inventors. Now we just need to up the ante in a more complex, highly skilled direction. What will power the advanced economies of the 21st century are ideas and energy. Only highly educated, creative, and motivated people can do that.

You really need to pull away from the dogma and false dichotomy of the two "sides" and think originally on your own. I know that probably won't happen because your a grown ass man who has been indoctrinated most of your life and thinking outside your box is nearly impossible. But, I'm still putting it out there...
 
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Jhnn, and other communists are on a roll, because Obama won a second term.

There's no question that they hate everything America stands for.

-John

I agree and its sickening to me how they attack the rich and want more taxes on them, Don't they understand hard work
 

Zorkorist

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The rich people, AKA the American dream, are attacked by Obama and his cronies.

Nevermind cutting the federal spending...

lets just tax the rich.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I'm just an average American guy... looking to see the American Dream, dissapear.

-John
 

dmcowen674

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Really? China owns IBM?

:colbert:

China bought a part of the business that IBM sold off. SOLD. They did not 'give'. China did not buy IBM, they bought a business unit they wanted to sell off. Why did they sell? Because their PC business was losing money. (4 years of losses close to $600m if memory serves) I believe they also got part of the Lenovo company in the deal

Given Dell and HPs rapidly falling PC sales figures and stock price compared to how well IBM is doing it seems like a smart thing for them to have done

Good God man - think a little bit before you post

Good God man - think a little bit before you post

Can you still buy a Lenovo?

Yes of course you can.

If it was losing money you think they would still be making them and selling them?

No one is falling for your rich Republican shit anymore.
 

Olikan

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I agree and its sickening to me how they attack the rich and want more taxes on them, Don't they understand hard work
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can someone create a meme using this image, and the bold text togheter?
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...the even funny part is that the comunism of URSS, you did gained more if you did worked harder

Incorruptible, are you rich?
 

Exterous

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Good God man - think a little bit before you post

Can you still buy a Lenovo?

Yes of course you can.

If it was losing money you think they would still be making them and selling them?

No one is falling for your rich Republican shit anymore.

Since you did not address my point that Lenovo did not buy IBM can I assume you are admitting that your claim was completely wrong in that instance?

Also - what does Lenovo making money on PC sales have to do with IBM losing money on PC sales? As we covered earlier IBM =/= Lenovo. One doing well does not preclude the other from having done poorly. Why are you changing the subject?

The part about IBM losing money on its PC sales cannot be argued. It has happened multiple times and is in official SEC records should you want to search those.

The personal systems unit reported a pretax loss of $136 million for the period.

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1010509813382486240.html

IBM Corp.'s personal computer business racked up US$965 million in losses between Jan. 1, 2001, and June 30, 2004, the company said last week in a filing to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, detailing the planned sale of the business to China's Lenovo Group Ltd.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1041776/ibm.html
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

can someone create a meme using this image, and the bold text togheter?
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...the even funny part is that the comunism of URSS, you did gained more if you did worked harder

Incorruptible, are you rich?

Not all rich people worked for it, but I wouldn't expect you to understand this

I am not rich but I make a decent wage and live a good life
 

Doppel

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This is a funny thread. My huge company is doing very well, but just yesterday I heard about budget cuts across departments. Trickle down, baby!