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(Corporate) Food rationing in America

Specop 007

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I would like to be able to confirm this, if anyone has any other sites or info on this please let me know.

Anyways, this is definitely an interesting turn if its true. Food rationing in America. When was the last time we really had that when there was no natural disaster....World War II??

Theres already the issue of food riots in Haiti, Bangladesh and some parts of Africa. If things continue on it wont get any better thats for sure.

Article

Food Rationing Confronts Breadbasket of the World
By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | April 21, 2008
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. ? Many parts of America, long considered the breadbasket of the world, are now confronting a once unthinkable phenomenon: food rationing.


Major retailers in New York, in areas of New England, and on the West Coast are limiting purchases of flour, rice, and cooking oil as demand outstrips supply. There are also anecdotal reports that some consumers are hoarding grain stocks.

At a Costco Warehouse in Mountain View, Calif., yesterday, shoppers grew frustrated and occasionally uttered expletives as they searched in vain for the large sacks of rice they usually buy.

?Where?s the rice?? an engineer from Palo Alto, Calif., Yajun Liu, said. ?You should be able to buy something like rice. This is ridiculous.?

The bustling store in the heart of Silicon Valley usually sells four or five varieties of rice to a clientele largely of Asian immigrants, but only about half a pallet of Indian-grown Basmati rice was left in stock. A 20-pound bag was selling for $15.99.

?You can?t eat this every day. It?s too heavy,? a health care executive from Palo Alto, Sharad Patel, grumbled as his son loaded two sacks of the Basmati into a shopping cart. ?We only need one bag but I?m getting two in case a neighbor or a friend needs it,? the elder man said.

The Patels seemed headed for disappointment, as most Costco members were being allowed to buy only one bag. Moments earlier, a clerk dropped two sacks back on the stack after taking them from another customer who tried to exceed the one-bag cap.

?Due to the limited availability of rice, we are limiting rice purchases based on your prior purchasing history,? a sign above the dwindling supply said.

Shoppers said the limits had been in place for a few days, and that rice supplies had been spotty for a few weeks. A store manager referred questions to officials at Costco headquarters near Seattle, who did not return calls or e-mail messages yesterday.

An employee at the Costco store in Queens said there were no restrictions on rice buying, but limits were being imposed on purchases of oil and flour. Internet postings attributed some of the shortage at the retail level to bakery owners who flocked to warehouse stores when the price of flour from commercial suppliers doubled.

The curbs and shortages are being tracked with concern by survivalists who view the phenomenon as a harbinger of more serious trouble to come.

?It?s sporadic. It?s not every store, but it?s becoming more commonplace,? the editor of SurvivalBlog.com, James Rawles, said. ?The number of reports I?ve been getting from readers who have seen signs posted with limits has increased almost exponentially, I?d say in the last three to five weeks.?

Spiking food prices have led to riots in recent weeks in Haiti, Indonesia, and several African nations. India recently banned export of all but the highest quality rice, and Vietnam blocked the signing of new contract for foreign rice sales.

?I?m surprised the Bush administration hasn?t slapped export controls on wheat,? Mr. Rawles said. ?The Asian countries are here buying every kind of wheat.?

Mr. Rawles said it is hard to know how much of the shortages are due to lagging supply and how much is caused by consumers hedging against future price hikes or a total lack of product.

?There have been so many stories about worldwide shortages that it encourages people to stock up. What most people don?t realize is that supply chains have changed, so inventories are very short,? Mr. Rawles, a former Army intelligence officer, said. ?Even if people increased their purchasing by 20%, all the store shelves would be wiped out.?

At the moment, large chain retailers seem more prone to shortages and limits than do smaller chains and mom-and-pop stores, perhaps because store managers at the larger companies have less discretion to increase prices locally.

Mr. Rawles said the spot shortages seemed to be most frequent in the Northeast and all the way along the West Coast. He said he had heard reports of buying limits at Sam?s Club warehouses, which are owned by Wal-Mart Stores, but a spokesman for the company, Kory Lundberg, said he was not aware of any shortages or limits.

An anonymous high-tech professional writing on an investment Web site, Seeking Alpha, said he recently bought 10 50-pound bags of rice at Costco. ?I am concerned that when the news of rice shortage spreads, there will be panic buying and the shelves will be empty in no time. I do not intend to cause a panic, and I am not speculating on rice to make profit. I am just hoarding some for my own consumption,? he wrote.

For now, rice is available at Asian markets in California, though consumers have fewer choices when buying the largest bags. ?At our neighborhood store, it?s very expensive, more than $30? for a 25-pound bag, a housewife from Mountain View, Theresa Esquerra, said. ?I?m not going to pay $30. Maybe we?ll just eat bread.?
 
I read this article and it's hysterical hyperbole. Basically: some stores had a problem getting consistent product from their supplier, so decided to ration on a few products. Nothing to see here, folks.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I read this article and it's hysterical hyperbole. Basically: some stores had a problem getting consistent product from their supplier, so decided to ration on a few products. Nothing to see here, folks.

Right, but I'm curious with the recent food export bans how this will play out. Will we have high priced food, or none at all?

You dont think the rioting taking place across the world is just cause people are bored do you?
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I read this article and it's hysterical hyperbole. Basically: some stores had a problem getting consistent product from their supplier, so decided to ration on a few products. Nothing to see here, folks.

yip.

now if it was a ration mandated by our government where i have to carry a card that ALLOWS me to buy 5 pounds of meat a week thats a whole different ballgame. this is a private company limiting how much 1 customer can buy. this isnt rationing as the OP thinks it is.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
I would like to be able to confirm this, if anyone has any other sites or info on this please let me know.

Anyways, this is definitely an interesting turn if its true. Food rationing in America. When was the last time we really had that when there was no natural disaster....World War II??

Theres already the issue of food riots in Haiti, Bangladesh and some parts of Africa. If things continue on it wont get any better thats for sure.

I posted a few months back how a couple of people I know that work at Wal-Mart are involved in the Soup and Bread line effort they are organizing.

They already got a heads up of how bad it is going to be.
 
People are stupid and they're doing this to themselves, typical knee jerks reaction of the idiotic mass. OH TEH NOES, RICE WILL GO UP IN PRICE SO LET'S GO HOARD TEH RICE BAGS!!!! (in the meantime drive up more demands... brilliant!).

Idiots!

Sure, a 50 lbs bag of will go up in price, but it will also last for months (do you want to eat old rice?). Even at a $50 dollars increase in price, that is no cause to create an artificial shortage as you see across California. The idiots that are passing this around their community needs to be whacked on their heads with giant rubber dildos.

What's next? Buy up houses that they can't afford because "price will go up" or storing gasoline because that will go up too? Oh, wait...
 
The two largest exporters of rice (India and Vietnam) have stopped exporting so they can feed their own populations. This is why we see a price increase in rice and it may be the reason people are seeing "rationing".
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Specop 007
I would like to be able to confirm this, if anyone has any other sites or info on this please let me know.

Anyways, this is definitely an interesting turn if its true. Food rationing in America. When was the last time we really had that when there was no natural disaster....World War II??

Theres already the issue of food riots in Haiti, Bangladesh and some parts of Africa. If things continue on it wont get any better thats for sure.

I posted a few months back how a couple of people I know that work at Wal-Mart are involved in the Soup and Bread line effort they are organizing.

They already got a heads up of how bad it is going to be.


Yeah Dave just like you "know" the 3 headed moon people of Relnac 7 and are privy to their plans to conquer the Earth with a combination of frozen pastry and Elmer's Glue.

This isn't the Great Depression. Not even close. It is a minor economic downturn that the Chicken Littles and every schmo with an agenda are blowing out of proportion.

Food rationing? I'll believe it when I walk into a buffet and my choices for dinner are limited to warm tap water and Tic Tacs.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Specop 007
I would like to be able to confirm this, if anyone has any other sites or info on this please let me know.

Anyways, this is definitely an interesting turn if its true. Food rationing in America. When was the last time we really had that when there was no natural disaster....World War II??

Theres already the issue of food riots in Haiti, Bangladesh and some parts of Africa. If things continue on it wont get any better thats for sure.

I posted a few months back how a couple of people I know that work at Wal-Mart are involved in the Soup and Bread line effort they are organizing.

They already got a heads up of how bad it is going to be.

The nice thing about living in America, its easy to live in denial. And usually, we can.

The bad thing about living in America? You dont realize just how close we are to a real big fucking problem.


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RICE: WORLD MARKETS AND TRADE

On day soon America is gonna wake up and go "Oh shit"......
 
Rationing? Go check out the dumpster behind any grocery store and see how much expired food they throw out. When the homeless people start complaining (they use the internet at the public library) I will start hoarding flour.
 
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
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At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
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.
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At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

3+ year old article....
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
.
.
.
At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

3+ year old article....

And what do you think has changed in 3 years?
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


We're gonna starve I tell you!!


Not me, I stock piled firearms and ammo. 🙂 Also, I have a bunch of gold hidden in the basement and contacts with strippers. If my personal supply of rice, flour and beans get low, I can buy more with gold or if that fails, I can trade p*ssY for food.

Yea, for thinking ahead 🙂


 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
.
.
.
At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

3+ year old article....

Yeah, but it was based on an 8 year sceintific study.

You on the other hand are making predicitions of food rationing based on one store in California limiting their customers to only one bag of imported rice.
 
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
.
.
.
At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

3+ year old article....

And what do you think has changed in 3 years?

1) Population

2) Arable land

3) Oil production

4) Oil costs

5) Food costs

6) Ethanol production

7) Weather
 
Maybe people are buying rice and selling it blackmarket in Mexico or something. They should go to the Korean Markets.

Arkansas is the State which produces the most rice in the USA.

I often buy Rice At Wal-mart or a local Korean Market in St Louis, MO.

If the price of a food commodity is on the rise, it is only logical that people would horde said commodity.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
.
.
.
At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

3+ year old article....

And what do you think has changed in 3 years?

1) Population

2) Arable land

3) Oil production

4) Oil costs

5) Food costs

6) Ethanol production

7) Weather

You missed the point of my question - I bet that Americans still throw away 16% of their food.

Plus, while a lot of those things may have changed, they don't explain the sudden (overblown) panic over food.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Food Waste Epidemic in America

Nov. 24, 2004 ? Americans are tossing out at least $75 billion in food each year, according to an extensive study that follows foods from farms through retailers and into the mouths and waste bins of consumers.

The eight-year study reveals that restaurants, convenience stores and most families could help their bottom lines if they just learned to buy, store and use food more wisely.

"If we wanted to stimulate the economy all we'd have to do is cut food losses," said anthropologist at the University of Arizona's Bureau of Applied Research Anthropology.
.
.
.
At home, the average American family throws away 14 percent of their food, Jones said. In terms of money, that's almost $600 every year in meats, fruit, vegetables and grain products.

We're gonna starve I tell you!!

The tragedy here is that there are charitable organizations, like Second Harvest, that exist solely to collect and redistribute this food before it is wasted, and yet still there is this much thrown away.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
I can't even remember the last time I ate rice. I'm pretty sure I've never bought rice either.

And I had teriyaki chicken for lunch. Good stuff.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JS80
I can't even remember the last time I ate rice. I'm pretty sure I've never bought rice either.

And I had teriyaki chicken for lunch. Good stuff.

I haven't had sushi in a while. Anyone notice if sushi prices reflect the increase in rice prices?
 
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