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Cornea 17" LCD $473 for amex BVG users

>>Why does it seem more and more LCDs are analog only?

Becuase people don't want the dual upgrade AND I have auditioned more than a dozen flat panels, some with an ATI Radeon 8500 with DVI and some with analog and if the difference between analog and digital is great, I must be slipping, because I can switch between the two within minutes and not see a difference. If you read enough reviews of later model LCDs you'll find that they find as well.
 
Here's the spec:

Can someone comment on the performance of this? Possible ghosting, etc... Or even better someone who owned this lcd.


Panel
Type 17" viewable diagonal TFT type
Pixel Pitch 0.264mm (H) × 0.264mm (V)
Viewing Angle Horizontal: 140°
Vertical: 110°
Display Area (HxV) 337.92mm x 270.336mm (13.30" x 10.64")
Backlight MTBF 50,000 hours
Display Colors 16.7 million (dithering)
Contrast Ratio 400:1 (typical)
Brightness 250cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time
Rising/Falling 25ms
Scanning Frequency
Horizontal 31-82Khz
Vertical 56-75Hz
Recommended Resolution 1280x1024 @ 75Hz
Input Signals
VGA RGB Analog
Compatibility Windows®95/98/2000, Mac, Unix, OS/2 compatibles
User Controls Brightness, Contrast, Auto-Adjustment, Clock, Phase, H/V Position, Color Control, 5 OSD Language
I/O Connectors VGA 15 pin mini D-sub, DC Power-in
Power AC 100-240V, 50/60Hz Input
12V, 3.3A Max DC Output
Power Consumption 36 watts (typical)
Power Management VESA DPMS Compatible
Plug & Play VESA DDC 1/2B
Temperature
Operation 0°C-50°C (32°F-122°F)
Storage -20°C-60°C (-4°F-140°F)
Dimensions 414mm × 369mm × 170mm (16.30" x 14.53" x 6.71")
Weight
Net 4.9kg (10.81lbs)
Gross 6.7kg (14.77lbs)
Regulations UL, cUL, CE, CB, FCC-B, VCCI, TCO95
Feature Kensington Security Slot
 
Optical - I used this at work for a month, the ghosting is practically non existent and I can watch DVDs without a glitch, like a very good laptop screen. I only give the edge to the Samsung because I prefer portrait mode swivel action. This is a great quality screen.
 
Greg, thanks a lot. For $473, it may not be a bad deal. I'm tempting to get this in before BVG expires. It's too bad everyone sells this pretty much for the same price.
 
I bought this one from eCost (But beware, the SOCK you with a $16 "handling fee" so it's not really $479 there.)

I liked the small size of it, but here were the problems:
1) 3 dead pixels. eCost would charge a huge restock fee if I returned it, Cornea failed to respond to multiple emails about it, called and found that it was "not warrantable" as up to 10 dead pixels on a screen this size are considered "acceptable".

2) The vertical viewing angle SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Note: the specs show 110.. that's 55 up from center and 55 down from center. That's very limited, and I don't believe it honestly was THAT much. The best monitors are 160 vertical (80 up, 80 down)

If you looked STRAIGHT on in the center, the top was a little bit darker than the bottom. Now lean back in your chair... The top was much darker, bordering on "solarized" (e.g. negative), and the bottom was now not as washed out and about right. Sit up very straight, looking at the top of the monitor, the bottom was washed out and the top was "about right".

(from side to side, it was better, only changing color temp from cool to warm, but vertical was UNUSABLE!)


Also paint palettes showed a higher amount of black and white than on a normal monitor (in otherwords it faded to black/white faster than others, so you have less colors you can "see") This however tends to be a problem with most screens.

Also, the dot size is only .26. I'd go with a 17.4 with .28.. It will be easier on your eyes especially at 1280 default resolution.


And yes, I've used MUCH better LCD monitors. In fact, am typing this message on a Dell (Samsung made) 1702FP. The vertical and horizontal viewing angles are 160/160 and this does NOT suffer from ANY of the problems I listed above that I noticed the cornea had. Unfortunately the 1702FP's have a much larger frame and a huge, HEAVY base and big arm. That was what was nice about the Cornea.

However, when I'm ready to "try again" I would much rather go for the Dell 1702FP than ever consider another Cornea made with the same panel technology.

Stay away from this one guys. You're gonna HATE the vertical viewing angle... I wouldn't pay over $350 for it given that. (Plus the 3 dead pixels annoyed me and the fact that the company wouldn't help with that)
 
Also 2 other things about the Cornea:

1) Many web bbs-forum backgrounds (e.g. the light and medium blue-grey behind the posted message text) was virtually invisible. If I adjusted bright/contrast, I could make it a bit better, but then the rest of the screen looked bad . I don't see that as much on the 1702FP I am using a work. Yes, they're a bit lighter than on a normal CRT, but not nearly "white" like the Cornea.

2) Medium Gray backgrounds (e.g. background in Visual Studio without code open, or background in Paint Shop Pro) ended up causing HUGE amounts of flicker, line waves and dot crawl on the Cornea. (Normal web surfing it was as solid as any other) This was using a new VisionTek 5632 GeForce2, and the included monitor cable. (Also tried a couple other cables just in case). Again, if it has DVI then this would not have been as much of a problem, but I also do not see this problem on the Dell 1702FP's. It was very annoying. It happened on other colors too, but a % Grey was the most noticeable.
 
I have a Cornea 17" (mp703), and it is beautiful. I bought it in January, had a little problem with it, sent it in to Cornea (advance replacement is sweet) got one back, it had a dead pixel, they took it back, sent another one, which also had a dead pixel, so we tried one more time. Got it and it is just fine. Phil at Cornea's RMA was terrific to work with. This monitor is sleek and bright!
I am sure there are better monitors out there. But this one is definately great. Mine has dvi input as well. I think this is a great company, but that has just been my experience.

PJ
 
Weird, I guess quality control isn't up to snuff, as far as the pixels go, most manufacturers have a dead/bright limit over 5 before they will consider an exchange.
 
> Pastorjay " have a cornea 17" (mp703)..."

The MP703 is a different monitor. We're talking about the MP704 here. Most companies make multiple monitors using the raw internal panels from different manufacturers. They may or may not be the same internals.


> gswpete "DealLurker, how is the dell 1702fp for games and movies?"

Unfortunately the 1702FP's I use are at work, and therefore only get the benefits of seeing: Outlook, Word, IE, VisualStudio and no games or movies 🙁


PS: Another annoyance I just remembered on the Cornea 704 was that the logic of the scrolling in the menus was backwards. A vertical menu would appear and the < button would move you DOWN the list, and the > button would move you UP the list. (totally backwards). I always ended up having to hit the opposite button 2 times to compensate for the wrong direction the first time)
 
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