CoreTemp .96 or coretemp .96.1

[Mondoman]

Originally posted by: jaredpace I know for my e8400 people said it was vcore of 1.4 actual would be the maximum for safe 24/7 operation.

Since that's above the range of VID's listed by Intel for the e8400, I sure wouldn't believe "people" without understanding how they came by their belief.

 

[emblem]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: emblem
I just tried to reseat it again. Put a dot on it. I'm getting higher temps by 3 degrees now.

means theres a big difference each time you are applying it. try lapping it like I said.

edit: also, good point you are making about delta to tJunction Max. That is really all that matters, the temp is the same, it is really only 1 actual temp if you think about it. at TJmax, you're going to get shut off by the cpu because of its thermal threshold. If your reporting 50C in one coretemp and 65C in the other when reading temps at load - It just means coretemp is reporting the wrong tj-max "tj-max hehe" for your stepping. Either way, when you read the delta, you see 45c until you hit the threshold. If you want to stay safe, dont overclock it. If you want to stay safe in accordance with this forums recommendations, stay below the Vcore everyone agrees on for your chip. I know for my e8400 people said it was vcore of 1.4 actual would be the maximum for safe 24/7 operation. Not sure what it is for a 65nm conroe 2200

http://i27.tinypic.com/23lktuo.jpg

When I overclocked at first, I left the voltage setting to auto and it set my voltage to 1.34 and not the 1.28 that was the default.

Should I change it back to 1.28

Is that what you mean?

 

[Tullphan]

I can't get either v.96 or v.96.1 to run for any length of time. I get the "encountered an error" thing.

 

[imported_wonderwrench]

Originally posted by: emblem
??

I don't understand your post.

Are the pics not working? The school filter keeps me from viewing imageshack

Also:
I've been getting some recommendations to get an Infrared thermometer for more accurate temp readings and I might get this.
http://www.directron.com/mt100.html#caption

I had some bad type o's, sorry.

Imageshack is up and running again but it's a pain in the ass to jump from one image to the next and you only supply idle temps.

Can you post in text your ambient temp, cpu temp aka Tcase temp, Core temps aka Tjunction temps at both idle and load. Loaded using Prime95 or similar? Use the version of Coretemp that has TJmax 100C.

A heat gun is a nice toy but what are you going to base measured temps off of?
IMO of no use.

 

[imported_wonderwrench]

Originally posted by: CatchPhrase
Your temps are bad. I get 51C with my e2140 using Coretemp 96.1 running ORTHROS. 350x8 2.8ghz
Is your room warm?

A E2140 has a Tjmax of 100C, what does Coretemp 96.1 show Tjmax? If its 85C you need to add 15C to the readings. So 66C

 

[emblem]

At stock values

Idle: Tcase 27C Tjunction using coretemp 43C
Load: I think it was around 60. I didn't take any pics of it at load.


Oc'd to 2.4 and at 1.34 Volts.
Load: after running orthos for 30 minutes I am seeing a Tjunction temp of 69. Didn't check Tcase of it.

Idle: Tjuntion 49C Tcase 35




Temps increased by about 6 when I overclocked

 

[imported_wonderwrench]

Originally posted by: emblem
At stock values

Idle: Tcase 27C Tjunction using coretemp 43C
Load: I think it was around 60. I didn't take any pics of it at load.


Oc'd to 2.4 and at 1.34 Volts.
Load: after running orthos for 30 minutes I am seeing a Tjunction temp of 69. Didn't check Tcase of it.

Idle: Tjuntion 49C Tcase 35




Temps increased by about 6 when I overclocked

If your bios has a PECI function enable it as it increases Tcase reporting accuracy and report changes. If not see below.

If you had a hard time getting around Computronix guide try this. Case covers off. Accurate thermometer by case intake fan. All fans at 100%. Set your cpu speed and voltage to stock. Enable EIST in the bios then in windows set Power Scheme to "Minimal power management". This should drop your cpu speed way below stock speed and voltage when the CPU is at idle. Make sure by using a utility like CPUZ. Allow your cpu to idle for about 10 minutes. Make sure nothing is loading your CPU. Record ambient temp and cpu/Tcase temp. Tcase temp should be 0C to 1C hotter than room temp.

Your reported Tcase temp will most likely be below ambient.
Example: Ambient temp 22C reported Tcase 15C. Add the difference +1C to the reported temp. So Tcase is 23C. If Tcase is reported more than 1C higher than ambient subtract the difference less 1C so Tcase is 1C above ambient. Now that you know Tcase temp your CPU has a Tcase to Tjunction delta of 10C +- 3 so check your reported Tjunction temp. Using the example above, Tcase 23C + 10C = Tjunction 33C. This may be off some but it should tell you if your Tjunction temps are way off.

Please report back.

Removed incorrect info. Tcase always higher than Tjunction. This is backwards, I must have been half a sleep. Correction, Tjunction temp will always be higher than Tcase temp.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Mondoman

Originally posted by: jaredpace I know for my e8400 people said it was vcore of 1.4 actual would be the maximum for safe 24/7 operation.

Since that's above the range of VID's listed by Intel for the e8400, I sure wouldn't believe "people" without understanding how they came by their belief.

ask around. I'm sure you'll get a similar response. I ran mine at 1.58 in bios for quite a while, and have seen people running upwards of 1.7,1.8 on extreme cooling. Taken from the words of people in this forum, past 1.4 is *not safe*

 

[emblem]

Originally posted by: wonderwrench

Originally posted by: emblem
At stock values

Idle: Tcase 27C Tjunction using coretemp 43C
Load: I think it was around 60. I didn't take any pics of it at load.


Oc'd to 2.4 and at 1.34 Volts.
Load: after running orthos for 30 minutes I am seeing a Tjunction temp of 69. Didn't check Tcase of it.

Idle: Tjuntion 49C Tcase 35




Temps increased by about 6 when I overclocked

Your Tcase temps are lower than your Tjunction temps. That is not possible. Tcase will always be higher than Tjunction temps. On your E2200 the delta between Tcase and Tjunction is 10C +- 3C. You need to calibrate your reported temps so you can tell whats really going on.

If your bios has a PECI function enable it as it increases Tcase reporting accuracy and report changes. If not see below.

If you had a hard time getting around Computronix guide try this. Case covers off. Accurate thermometer by case intake fan. All fans at 100%. Set your cpu speed and voltage to stock. Enable EIST in the bios then in windows set Power Scheme to "Minimal power management". This should drop your cpu speed way below stock speed and voltage when the CPU is at idle. Make sure by using a utility like CPUZ. Allow your cpu to idle for about 10 minutes. Make sure nothing is loading your CPU. Record ambient temp and cpu/Tcase temp. Tcase temp should be 0C to 1C hotter than room temp.

Your reported Tcase temp will most likely be below ambient.
Example: Ambient temp 22C reported Tcase 15C. Add the difference +1C to the reported temp. So Tcase is 23C. If Tcase is reported more than 1C higher than ambient subtract the difference less 1C so Tcase is 1C above ambient. Now that you know Tcase temp your CPU has a Tcase to Tjunction delta of 10C +- 3 so check your reported Tjunction temp. Using the example above, Tcase 23C + 10C = Tjunction 33C. This may be off some but it should tell you if your Tjunction temps are way off.

Please report back.

I don't have any type of thermometer. I think I do see what you mean though.

 

[emblem]

Anything else I could do until I get a thermometer?

 

[imported_wonderwrench]

Originally posted by: emblem
Anything else I could do until I get a thermometer?

Not really. You should be able to find a cheap digital thermometer for $10 or less.
Like http://factorylawnandgarden.co...ant_Read_Pocket_Therm/