Core i7 Stability Issues

DarthRevan

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Hey guys, I was trying to put my i7 920 over 4.0Ghz, but Everest´s Stability test was alwasy failing, as soon as I clicked start. So I took out all the overclock I had made before, with default BIOS settings and tested again, but it ALWAYS crash, the System freezes or it gets restarted. I need to overclock it, but if it´s not stable at it´s default how can I overclock? I need to solve this guys, please help me. I don´t guess it´s heat, i see people with Box cooler overclocking over 4.1 Ghz and I have 7 fans on my case.

PC specs:

Core i7 920
Gigabyte X58-UD5
OCZ Platinum 3x2GB DDR3 1600Mhz
GeForce BFG GTX280
Patriot Warp V2 SSD 32GB ---> for OS
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB GLFS 10K RPM
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
Corsair HX1000
CM-690 + 7 Fans CM 90CFM w/ LEDs .
Akasa Internal Card Reader
Asus DRW-20B1LT
LG Flatron W1942T
Logitech LX8 Cordless Laser Mouse
Xbox 360 Wireless Controller for Windows.
 

jandlecack

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Use Realtemp or Coretemp to monitor your temps. Run something other than Everest. For example Prime95 Small FFTs or Linx (Linpack GUI) at 1.5GB. See how it goes at default clocks.

Also, there's some issues with e.g. SuperPi on Vista (and perhaps Seven) where if you don't disable the Windows Audio service, it will crash no matter what. Anyway try the above first.

Oh and it's never a bad idea to force all the standard voltages via BIOS, e.g. 1.2V CPU, 1.2V QPI, and so on.
 

DarthRevan

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Thanks for the quick reply. I´ll wait for more opinions before doing anything. It´s also curious that my RAM is set to 1066MHz by Default, if I set it to 1600MHz the system crashes before it would crash if it was at 1066MHz (2:30 vs 6:00). And even if it´s at 1600MHz everest recognizes it at 1066 MHz (CPU-Z and BIOS shows 1060MHz). Another thing is that when it was at 3.9 Ghz I calculated the Sky acessbility in a Crysis map (very CPU demmanding task, it used it´s 8 threads) and even though the computer didn´t crash, so it made me think it was stable, but then everest crashed -.-
 

aigomorla

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everest + vista 64 + i7 = UBER FAIL

everest period is fail on the combination i posted above.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
everest + vista 64 + i7 = UBER FAIL

everest period is fail on the combination i posted above.

[Mmm. . . . That's interesting . . . I got the new version of Ev-Ultimate and running it on Vista 64 with an LGA775 system . . . no problem. . . . . I think I'm slowly planning an X58 system several months into the future . . . this is more "intel" about Intel . . . (or "intel" about Lavalys with Intel . . . ) ]

 

OCGuy

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You shouldnt "guess" if it is heat, you should know for sure. You cannot go off what other people claim on the internet.
 

DarthRevan

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CPU temps don´t go over 55~58 and core temps gets at 75 when its fully working (no overlock).

And it´s not heat for sure, no OC + 7 fans it needs to work.
 

Elganja

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
everest + vista 64 + i7 = UBER FAIL

everest period is fail on the combination i posted above.

i've never had issues with vista 64 and everest... what are the issues that others are having?
 

error8

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Why do people even bother with everest? You have Real temp/Core temp for cpu temperature and Prime95/OCCT/Linpack for stability testing. There is no need for anything else. :)
 

Elganja

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Originally posted by: error8
Why do people even bother with everest? You have Real temp/Core temp for cpu temperature and Prime95/OCCT/Linpack for stability testing. There is no need for anything else. :)

i use it since it has a nice vista sidebar plugin
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Elganja
Originally posted by: aigomorla
everest + vista 64 + i7 = UBER FAIL

everest period is fail on the combination i posted above.

i've never had issues with vista 64 and everest... what are the issues that others are having?

on an i7 it BSOD.

This is repeatable by me, and my friend, and i wasted a good half day debugging it down to the program.

Use something besides everest and try your stability check.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: DarthRevan
So why isn´t the guy there getting BSDO?

what do you call this?

Originally posted by: DarthRevan
So I took out all the overclock I had made before, with default BIOS settings and tested again, but it ALWAYS crash, the System freezes or it gets restarted..
 

Gasaraki88

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"CPU temps don´t go over 55~58 and core temps gets at 75 when its fully working (no overlock).

And it´s not heat for sure, no OC + 7 fans it needs to work. "
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Damn... that's some high temps for stock. 75C is very high for full load. You will never get any overclocks with temperatures like that, no matter how many fans you have.
 

DarthRevan

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My CPU temps gets to 56 at full load. Only core Temps reach the 80s. Is it that bad? Runned OCCT for 15 minutes with sucess.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: error8
Why do people even bother with everest? You have Real temp/Core temp for cpu temperature and Prime95/OCCT/Linpack for stability testing. There is no need for anything else. :)

I test with OCCT and both the CPU and GPU. OCCT uses the Prime95 torture tests as the code base for the CPU stressing doesn't it?
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Golgatha
Originally posted by: error8
Why do people even bother with everest? You have Real temp/Core temp for cpu temperature and Prime95/OCCT/Linpack for stability testing. There is no need for anything else. :)

I test with OCCT and both the CPU and GPU. OCCT uses the Prime95 torture tests as the code base for the CPU stressing doesn't it?

I don't know. I'm only using Linpack to test for stability now. Before Linpack I was using 2 hours of OCCT and I remember that it was a great stability tester, far better then Prime95. If it passed that, it was 100% stable. But now, with Linpack, it takes only 10 minutes to find out if it's stable or not. :)
 

DarthRevan

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I used no Thermal Compoun on the System (CPU + Cooler), as the cooler came with a greyish thing, which I Thought to be the Compound. Is this the source of the heat ?
 

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Originally posted by: DarthRevan
I used no Thermal Compoun on the System (CPU + Cooler), as the cooler came with a greyish thing, which I Thought to be the Compound. Is this the source of the heat ?

Is it a thermal pad? Do you have a picture of it?
 

daw123

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Originally posted by: DarthRevan
It came like that, and that´s how I let it: http://img.tomshardware.com/us...iii___inel_box_tim.jpg

But i have this, which came with my Zalman 9700nt cooler (for my AMD system), but as the Intel cooler came with the compoud I didn´t use zalman´s: http://www.jab-tech.com/images/D/d_2962.jpg

It's looks as if it came with the thermal paste pre-applied. I would still remove the HSF and paste (inc. cleaning the HSF base plate with alcohol) and apply your own TIM just to make sure. For $10 of aftermarket TIM and 20 minutes of your time, it rules this issue out as a possibility - its a no-brainer really.

Here's the Artic Silver Application Guide for the I7 (note the comments that they make regarding application for the I7), which will apply as a general guide for all TIMs. You can also make sure that the HSF is seated properly as well when you re-seat it.