Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K detailed specifications exposure

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Source： http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/315730

5930K so sad...

 

[rtsurfer]

Source http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/315730

5930K so sad...

The Octacore is an extreme edition as everybody thought.

Interestingly they changed the amount of PCI lanes on the lowest part.

This should light up the brains of some people who thought that Intel would never decrease the PCI lanes on Broadwell to PCI-E 2.0.(Still not quite possible but after seeing this you can't be sure).

Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

 

[mikk]

Not sure how reliable this is because this guy posted the (possibly) Devil's Canyon fake.

 

[zir_blazer]

The Core i7 5820K missing 12 PCIe lanes? Boy, how I hate absurd market segmentation.

Shame on the Core i7 5960X because chances are that it will cost 1000 U$D, but at least you're getting something much more meaningful than a higher bin and some Cache L3 like on previous generations.

 

[NTMBK]

I'll happily give up 12 PCIe lanes, if I get an unlocked hex-core at 4820k prices.

 

[blackened23]

Well, the 5820k would have the same number of lanes as the mainstream platform (4770k etc) and would cost roughly 300$ if pricing maintains from the 4820k.

That trade-off is well worth it. 16+8 (16 cpu, 8 chipset) PCI-E lanes has never been a detriment for me, the only way in which it is detrimental for most users is if you want quad SLI. Generally speaking, quad SLI requires a PLX chipset motherboard with 40 pci-e lanes (16 via cpu, 24 via chipset) which can give you quad SLI. Or you can get the 4930k which has 40 lanes inherently both through cpu and chipset (32 via cpu, 8 via chipset)

I do not care about quad SLI. Therefore I do not care about 40 pci-e lanes. I'll happily take the 16 cpu lanes and 8 chipset pcie lanes for a 300$ hex core. Are you kidding me? If that chip is 300$, and unlocked, it's going to sell like mad. Probably would give the HEDT platform a boost, and i'd be one of the first to buy it - whereas I typically buy the mainstream platforms.

Again, if the 5820k is around 300-350$. It's going to sell like mad. Most people do not need 40 pcie lanes (again, 32 cpu / 8 chipset) unless they want quad sli. Most people do not want quad sli. WORTHWHILE tradeoff IMO. This will all depend on price. I do hope the 5820k is 300$ as is the 4820k. If it is. Count me in.

 

[blackened23]

I'll happily give up 12 PCIe lanes, if I get an unlocked hex-core at 4820k prices.

So much this. You just don't need those extra 12 lanes unless you're doing quad SLI or 4 way CF.

 

[frozentundra123456]

So much this. You just don't need those extra 12 lanes unless you're doing quad SLI or 4 way CF.

Personally, I bet at least 400.00 for the 5820K. Otherwise, competes too much with the 4770k price wise, which right now on newegg is 320.00. You really think Intel is going to price a hex core close to the price of the 4770K? Still think at 400.00 it would be an attractive choice, especially if overclocking is decent. Do these models have turbo?

 

[Sweepr]

I'm fine with ~$400. I just hope they don't end up pricing Core i7 5820K @ $580 and Core i7 5930K @ $700-800. I need a worthy replacement for my Bloomfield/Westmere systems.

 

[blackened23]

Personally, I bet at least 400.00 for the 5820K. Otherwise, competes too much with the 4770k price wise, which right now on newegg is 320.00. You really think Intel is going to price a hex core close to the price of the 4770K? Still think at 400.00 it would be an attractive choice, especially if overclocking is decent. Do these models have turbo?

That's not an unfair point. But do note that the base of the 5820k is 3.2ghz, presumably it all depends on how well it overclocks. Yet it could cost more... You make a good point. It definitely would compete and overlap with mainstream quad 4c/8t cpu's at 300$, which would make a higher price possible. I guess it all depends on how final clockspeeds and all that sorta thing works out.

Basically, if there's a detriment, it isn't because of pci-e lanes. To me that is a huge non issue except to 1% of the 1%. If it's 400$ and overclocks well, I think I would be okay with that. If that happens, it would be my first HEDT platform in many years - whereas i've typically preferred mainstream.

I really do feel the bigger variable with HEDT this go around will be DDR4 cost. DDR4 costs will be astronomical at launch, make no mistake. So that's the biggest variable that i'll be looking at when Haswell E launches. If 16GB of DDR4 costs 500$, i'd be inclined to say screw that. Right now DDR4 is being sold for server based systems and previous DRAM launches were always overpriced, not a single exception ever. But we'll see.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I'll happily give up 12 PCIe lanes, if I get an unlocked hex-core at 4820k prices.

This^^

Agree 100%....

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yea, I agree about the PCI-e issue. Just seems like that is the topic du juor to use lately to attack intel.

 

[NTMBK]

Personally, I bet at least 400.00 for the 5820K. Otherwise, competes too much with the 4770k price wise, which right now on newegg is 320.00. You really think Intel is going to price a hex core close to the price of the 4770K? Still think at 400.00 it would be an attractive choice, especially if overclocking is decent. Do these models have turbo?

The 4770k also comes with a relatively decent GPU, don't forget.

 

[frozentundra123456]

The 4770k also comes with a relatively decent GPU, don't forget.

True, and for mainstream pre-builts that is an important factor. However, I think that the vast majority of DIYers will add a discrete card.

Off topic a bit, but I have to say, I am completely mystified by some of the pre-builts I see with 4770 cpus and discrete cards like an nVidia GT630. Dell XPS line seems to be particularly guilty of this at the lower end.

 

[NTMBK]

Off topic a bit, but I have to say, I am completely mystified by some of the pre-builts I see with 4770 cpus and discrete cards like an nVidia GT630. Dell XPS line seems to be particularly guilty of this at the lower end.

I don't find it that surprising, when you consider how terrible Intel graphics used to be. Back in the old days they were just a recipe for disaster, and their reputation has been pretty tainted ever since. I doubt the average user knows how much better they are now.

 

[biostud]

Also you have to take total system cost into account. A 5820K might cost $400, but the price of the X99 board + DDR4 will add to a higher price difference in total system costs.

 

[Grooveriding]

Seems like an obvious fake. The 5820K would render the 5930K obsolete with those specs.

I'm expecting the 8 core to be an Extreme edition, but these specs are almost certainly fake with the 5820k/5930k claimed as being near the same.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Now I recall having a friendly debate with a prominent forum member here last year/early this year, about the speed of Haswell-E 8 core.

He was reasonably convinced it would be a 4.0Ghz processor and I thought it more likely it would be a 3.0Ghz processor.

So far I would say the pendulum is swinging in my favour. :biggrin:

 

[BrightCandle]

Very disappointed that the 8 cores is limited to the X processor, they are simply too expensive to make it worth it. If this is true I won't be getting a Haswell-E, I was kind of expecting to but this suggests I probably wont be. If I can't increase the core count its just not enough performance boost to be worth it, and I am not paying more than twice as much for 2 cores and a lower base clock speed.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Very disappointed that the 8 cores is limited to the X processor, they are simply too expensive to make it worth it. If this is true I won't be getting a Haswell-E, I was kind of expecting to but this suggests I probably wont be. If I can't increase the core count its just not enough performance boost to be worth it, and I am not paying more than twice as much for 2 cores and a lower base clock speed.

I think if you're coming from, say, an i7-2600K or even a plain old Haswell, then moving to X99 + i7-5820K actually makes a lot of sense. You get +2 cores, gobs of memory bandwidth, and I would *hope* an upgrade path to BDW-E.

But for 3930K/4930K owners...meh. I love upgrading as much as the next guy, but I do want to get the most out of this rig so I'll probably pass on HSW-E/X99.

 

[Redstorm]

I a little disappointed in the octo core clocked at only 3GHz.

If a 5930k over clocks to 4GHz ill probably go that route.

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I'm a scoop up a 3960K, 4930, ETC....... I must admit I didn't read the link. The upgrade treadmill is getting old!

 

[moonbogg]

If that lower hex core is pretty cheap I think it will do really well, but I also suspect its fake since the 5930k is too similar. For me, it depends on how well these hex cores OC. If they hit 4.6+ and can be cooled without custom water, I might find it worth it. OR, maybe a 3930k is still enough for a while.

 

[SAAA]

I a little disappointed in the octo core clocked at only 3GHz.

If a 5930k over clocks to 4GHz ill probably go that route.

Those are just stock speeds, don't take them as law. BTW I expect more than 4GHz on any of the chips as average overclock, you'll need water cooling for the eight core but still you have those 2 more cores...
In gaming now they aren't that useful but for any parallel workload and probably many future games it'll be the most time proof processor ever.

 

[BrightCandle]

Those are just stock speeds, don't take them as law. BTW I expect more than 4GHz on any of the chips as average overclock, you'll need water cooling for the eight core but still you have those 2 more cores...
In gaming now they aren't that useful but for any parallel workload and probably many future games it'll be the most time proof processor ever.

Its going to be $1000. That is the problem I have with it. I was hoping that Haswell-E would bring 8 cores to the mainstream pricing, it hasn't.