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Markfw

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Computer Bottleneck said:
Well I am mostly interested in gaming and Core i3 definitely does not get pounded by a $99 quad. (see the first link in my sig)
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OK, what am I missing. In your link the $99 quad beats the I3. Am I on a different planet ?
 
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@ toyota,

Well, now I know you aren't serious. You're next move will be to discredit any benchmark posted, and say something like "i'll wait for Anand, thanks". ;) Gee, I wonder what his opinion will be. Anyway, the key is to pursuade the members in enthusiast forums like this, and the rest will take care of itself, right guys? ;)
 
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piesquared said:
@ toyota,

Well, now I know you aren't serious. You're next move will be to discredit any benchmark posted, and say something like "i'll wait for Anand, thanks". ;) Gee, I wonder what his opinion will be. Anyway, the key is to pursuade the members in enthusiast forums like this, and the rest will take care of itself, right guys? ;)
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Nevermind, you edited....
 
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Markfw900 said:
OK, what am I missing. In your link the $99 quad beats the I3. Am I on a different planet ?
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Athlon II x4 beats the dual core....but it is only a 3% improvement.

Eventually we will see games scale more like 90% on quad cores. When that time comes then Athlon II x4 will take a bigger lead over these dual cores.

Quite honestly Mark I will probably pass on Core i3 . My current Core 2 duo is more than sufficient for the piddly little things I do and AMD Bulldozer/USB3/SATA3 will probably be the ideal upgrade point for me. However, I still think these chips are interesting.
 
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@ Markfw!

Yeah sorry, you got one in between us. :D

@ computer bottleneck

not to draw the point out too much, but if it loses by only 3 fps even, I don't see the justification in charging $30 more for it. but, like i said it will likely sell well. and even though viral marketing is a cancer to the industry, it does work.
 
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piesquared said:
@ toyota,

Well, now I know you aren't serious. You're next move will be to discredit any benchmark posted, and say something like "i'll wait for Anand, thanks". ;) Gee, I wonder what his opinion will be. Anyway, the key is to pursuade the members in enthusiast forums like this, and the rest will take care of itself, right guys? ;)
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I have seen a few preliminary gaming benchmarks on various enthusiast sites. So far, Athlon II x4 doesn't look that strong against Core i3.

However, I expect Dragon Age to be the major exception.
 
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@ computer bottleneck

not to draw the point out too much, but if it beats it by even only 3 fps, I don't see the justification in charging $30 more for it.
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Intel can charge $30 for Core i3 because it will be faster in a lot of single and dual threaded programs. On top of that this 32nm chip will likely be a quieter overclocker.

One thing I wish Intel improved was their power management. People on here are making me believe Cool-n-quiet is a better technology than Speedstep.
 
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Computer Bottleneck said:
Intel can charge $30 for Core i3 because it will be faster in a lot of single and dual threaded programs. On top of that this 32nm chip will likely be a quieter overclocker.

One thing I wish Intel improved was their power management. People on here are making me believe Cool-n-quiet is a better technology than Speedstep.
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Exactly and i'm one of those idiots who is probably going to spend 299.99 for the 670 for the simple fact that 5Ghz with it is a certain reality.

A 5Ghz Dual Core with HT is something i've always wished for ever since the 920 came out.
 
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Hey Zeus said:
Exactly and i'm one of those idiots who is probably going to spend 299.99 for the 670 for the simple fact that 5Ghz with it is a certain reality.
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I'm the kind of person to do that also. However, I *might* be inclined to use Thermalright Venomous X instead of Megahalems.

Nice thing about the dual cores is a person can buy the highest bin chips for a lot less money compared to the highest bin quad cores.
 
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Computer Bottleneck said:
I would be the same kind of person to do that also. However, I *might* be inclined to use Thermalright Venomous X instead of Megahalems.
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Computer,

My stacker case is going to be outfitted with 9 coolermaster 90cfm"claimed" :rolleyes: fans so i think the megahalems will cool her just fine. :D

11 if you count the two i'm mounting on the Prolimatech :)
 
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Computer Bottleneck said:
Intel can charge $30 for Core i3 because it will be faster in a lot of single and dual threaded programs.
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Yep, as long as they convince journalists to emphasize single threaded performance in their reviews, i'm sure it will look pretty good against the competition. The industry moving to multithreading will be irrelevant.
 
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@ toyota,

Well, now I know you aren't serious. You're next move will be to discredit any benchmark posted, and say something like "i'll wait for Anand, thanks". ;) Gee, I wonder what his opinion will be. Anyway, the key is to pursuade the members in enthusiast forums like this, and the rest will take care of itself, right guys? ;)
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what the heck are you talking about? I asked you a very simple question didnt I? you claimed something so show a link to it so I can see for myself. I will not be buying one of these cpus but I certainly like to see how they stack up.
 
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Computer Bottleneck said:
I'm the kind of person to do that also. However, I *might* be inclined to use Thermalright Venomous X instead of Megahalems.
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That would be like taking your hard earned money and throwing it in a fire.




Computer Bottleneck said:
Quite honestly Mark I will probably pass on Core i3.
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What?

What about the 1,378 posts you invested in the i3? You are giving up so soon? It isn't even out yet...
 
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piesquared said:
If intel's intention is just to sell to a handful of these to enthusiast's with overclocking in mind, they sure can't be planning on selling many.
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That's probably how this is going down. It took several months before any OEM computers had the i7. Right now on Best Buy's website, I don't see any computers that have either a Q9xxx or E8xxx processor in them, and most of the computers I saw at Staples today had E5xxx processors. Most of Intel's products (solid state drives included) are only available if you're an "enthusiast" who builds a computer from parts.

Enthusiasts will see the parts on Newegg on the day of release. The new products won't be on the floor of Best Buy for another 6 months after that. The people who build their own computers are also the people who overclock those computers. This is basically how the E8xxx series was handled. I've never seen an OEM computers with an E8xxx but a lot of people on this forum seem to own one and have overclocked the hell out of it.
 
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If they are still selling well, Intel will charge as much as it can even on what may seem as "lowly" dual cores. It's their corporate duty to their shareholders to get as much money.

edplayer said:
What? What about the 1,378 posts you invested in the i3? You are giving up so soon? It isn't even out yet...
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This had me laugh a little, I admit. Computer Bottleneck, what's up with that? Didn't you previously call the i3 the "best future gaming CPU"?
 
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This had me laugh a little, I admit. Computer Bottleneck, what's up with that? Didn't you previously call the i3 the "best future gaming CPU"?
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Give me a week and i'll have computer ordering an I3 for himself :D
 
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toyota said:
what the heck are you talking about? I asked you a very simple question didnt I? you claimed something so show a link to it so I can see for myself. I will not be buying one of these cpus but I certainly like to see how they stack up.
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http://en.hardspell.com/

Also have a look at the i3 v x3 benchmarks, which edges it out but this time at HALF the price. Then there's the added bonus of being able to unlock the fourth core with a very high success rate. There's no doubt that if intel competes on performance alone, these should sit on the shelf and collect dust. Of course, we all know intel doesn't rely on performance alone... ;)
 
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Well, I recently upgraded to a i5 750 so I won't need anything better for a couple of years but I'll be interested in seeing actual benchmarks comparing these chips with others when release happens.
 
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