Core i3 7350k review

[RichUK]

Lol at his comments - "struggling to find motivation to finish his own coverage" for kabylake reviews due to all the leaks.

 

[NTMBK]

You're all such grumpy gooses For years people said, "give us an unlocked i3!", and now it's here you're all "meh".

I think it's a cool product, just priced wrong. Price it to compete with the unlocked AMD APUs and it will be very interesting.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, G3258 was released for an anniversary and called an Anniversary Edition, so there was at least that idea for releasing a "special" Pentium chip.

Not sure what the rationale for the 7350K might be.

 

[vissarix]

the cpu is very nice to be fair, you could overclock it to 5ghz and it would be quite capable on everything...but man the price is just out of this world, add that you need a decent cooler + termal paste for any type of overclock and your already $230+ thats just way overexagerated for an 2core 4 threads...if this is not milking i dont know what to call it..

 

[coercitiv]

Not sure what the rationale for the 7350K might be.

Some Intel execs were watching Anandtech forums, and after years and years of reading how cool an unlocked i3 would be, they finally caved in: "Fine, let them have it!"

Reminds me of an old joke in my country:

Little Wabbit walks into a bakery and asks for "tiny loafs of bread". The baker apologizes and says they do not produce tiny loafs. Little Wabbit goes away with a really really sad face. Next day it comes back again, only to get the same answer. Day after day, same question, same answer, same heart melting sad face.

Ten days later, Little Wabbit enters the bakery only to be greeted by a very excited baker: "We finally have tiny loafs, freshly out of the oven!" he says. "Incredible, I'm really curious who's gonna buy them..." answers Little Wabbit.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Still, it's good to empirically test that. Even the 65nm->45nm Core2 shrink, brough IPC increases and new opcodes, however slight.

Except that SL to KL is not a die shrink, just an improved process to allow better clockspeeds and maintain turbo longer.

 

[frozentundra123456]

You actually bought the spastic Skylake? The lowest clocked and most retarded of the bunch? Should have at least gone to the 6500 not as castrated model . . .

This i3 is pfft. Its still nothing more than an upjumped dual core pretending its a quad. Meh.

Read his post before insulting him. He bought it to bclock overclock.

 

[LTC8K6]

We've also seen mention of a 2c/4t Pentium KL chip, which would be the bargain bin 4t chip.

 

[VirtualLarry]

We've also seen mention of a 2c/4t Pentium KL chip, which would be the bargain bin 4t chip.

Looking forward to those more. Hopefully, they're $70 or less. (Yeah, I know, I can wish.)

Could make a nice go-to CPU for budget builds that don't suck too badly. Combine with an 8GB DDR4-2400 or 3000, and an H110 board with an M.2 PCI-E slot, and an Intel 600p 256GB M.2 SSD, and you'll have a budget hot-rod for desktop tasks. I might get my friend with an Athlon II X4 a rig like that. I think that it would surprise him. (The performance, I mean.)

 

[frozentundra123456]

You're all such grumpy gooses For years people said, "give us an unlocked i3!", and now it's here you're all "meh".

I think it's a cool product, just priced wrong. Price it to compete with the unlocked AMD APUs and it will be very interesting.

That is true to a certain extent, but the problem is the chip should have been released a few years ago. It could have had a nice run back then when games relied more on single core performance. And as you said, the price without a heatsink even, is way too high.

 

[LTC8K6]

Looking forward to those more. Hopefully, they're $70 or less. (Yeah, I know, I can wish.)

Could make a nice go-to CPU for budget builds that don't suck too badly. Combine with an 8GB DDR4-2400 or 3000, and an H110 board with an M.2 PCI-E slot, and an Intel 600p 256GB M.2 SSD, and you'll have a budget hot-rod for desktop tasks. I might get my friend with an Athlon II X4 a rig like that. I think that it would surprise him. (The performance, I mean.)

And the potential if you could bclk overclock it...

 

[SpaceBeer]

Unlocked i3 is ok, but the it's price and need for Z170/270 board are not

 

[DrMrLordX]

You're all such grumpy gooses For years people said, "give us an unlocked i3!", and now it's here you're all "meh".

It cost too much.

The required boards cost too much.

No cooler = bad for new budget OC box.

So pass.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, we don't really know the actual cost or how it might be marketed.

We also don't know the details of the 7350K.

Marketing can be a big factor in sales.

 

[LTC8K6]

In the KL thread, it looks like HD620/630 are ~20% better than HD520/530.

That better IGP could help the 7350K sales a little.

 

[SpaceBeer]

It would still be slower than IGP in A12-9800. Though CPU part would be faster than 2 excavator moduls with only 2MB chache.

 

[LTC8K6]

It would still be slower than IGP in A12-9800. Though CPU part would be faster than 2 excavator moduls with only 2MB chache.

Does the A12-9800 have the throttling troubles we've seen with AMD APUs?

 

[fleshconsumed]

I suppose it's good to have "K" i3, but it's priced way too close to i5. Back in the day you could get G3258 for under $100 along with cheap mATX board from newegg at least couple of times a year. This CPU is supposed to retail at $170 plus the cost of the board. Too expensive IMO. I suppose someone on a really tight budget might buy it. Zen can't come fast enough, Intel has been enjoying near-monopoly for far too long.

 

[Headfoot]

Unlocked i3 will be awesome once Zen drops and competition forces everyone's product lines prices down. At the right price an unlocked i3 could be great. Not at this price though. This same time in 2017 though I bet it'll be a nice budget chip.

 

[crashtech]

There's not a wide enough price slot between i3 and i5 for this product to work. Maybe if duals were bumped downward and quads upward, but that wouldn't really make anybody happy. I can see this part being attractive if found on sale, or used.

 

[escrow4]

"Retarded" ... LOL. It's a freaking Skylake quad-core. And with BCLK OC ability, the stock speed doesn't matter, except possibly for binning. Most Skylake CPUs OC to around 4.4-4.6Ghz anyways, regardless.

That OC is a hack. If there is any update even in software that removes it you are still stuck with Intel's reject i4.5. As I said, never buy the cheapest lowest clocked crap, step up to the next one in line.

 

[AtenRa]

That OC is a hack.

I suppose you were not in to OC back in the Pentium 166 or Celeron A300 era. A Buss/FSB or BCLK OC its still an OVERCLOCK.

 

[LTC8K6]

I suppose you were not in to OC back in the Pentium 166 or Celeron A300 era. A Buss/FSB or BCLK OC its still an OVERCLOCK.

It sounds like a hack, though. Are all the listed problems still present these days with the bclk overclock?

http://overclocking.guide/updated-msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide-new-bios/

 

[VirtualLarry]

It sounds like a hack, though. Are all the listed problems still present these days with the bclk overclock?

It may now be considered a "hack", since it's not overclocked the "official" way that Intel provides for, but it's not much different than back in the good old days of overclocking Core2 / S775, with FSB overclocks.

The major downside is, no speedstep / voltage throttling, no full-strength AVX/AVX2, and most importantly, no iGPU. Which, for gaming, is no real downside, since you'll be using a dGPU anyways.

 

[jpiniero]

Again, it's not supposed to make sense, that's why they did it.