Originally posted by: Avalon
What the hell are you talking about?
Just to get this out of the way, I heavily OC all my CPUs...
First, that's got to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard someone say on these boards. There are plenty of reasons not to overclock. Maybe if you stopped to think what the side effects are of overclocking, you'd understand why tons of people build but don't OC.
1) The mild OC'er - If he uses stock cooling, he gains increased temps and louder fan speeds for marginal performance gains. If he uses 3rd party cooling, he's paying extra money to offset increased temps and fan speeds.
2) The heavy OC'er - Has to buy a 3rd party cooler, still generally experiences increased temps and fan speeds due to the heavy OC as opposed to running stock, and has to raise voltages.
And let's not forget the fact that when you overclock, you void your processors warranty? Should the CPU up and die within its 3 year (or 90 day) warranty, what are you going to do? RMA it and raise the costs of components? Waste money buying a new CPU? BTW, building your own PC and not OC'ing it often results in a cheaper and more powerful system than just resorting to getting a Dell.
I've OC'd every CPU I've ever owned and never had a single one go out on me. Maybe I'm just lucky then? As well as every single person I've taught how to OC and their perfect record as well? In fact, I've never even known a single person who OC's and has had a processor die on them as a result. This isn't to say I think it doesn't happen, but if you do all of the research before hand I sincerely doubt that my experience is the minority.
Besides I'm not talking about just any processor on the market, I'm talking about C2D and C2Q as a whole and namely current technology like G0 stepping vs. Phenom and how OC relates. You can make all these comments if you want and they may have applied to some processors over the past, but if you actually did the research you would know that G0 processors clock up fantastically and WITHOUT any extra cooling needed and WITHOUT raising the voltages.
So in how it relates to the C2D and C2Q, if you could OC any Q6600 G0 processor on the market to 3.0 Ghz without the need for anything but a stock cooler and without raising the voltages, what reason do you have left not to OC except foolishness and naivity. The only heat and power gains that are seen would be seen if you had bought the QX processor instead. Yes in order to get 3.6-3.8 type numbers you're going to want aftermarket cooling, but frankly I don't know anyone who has bought a C2D or C2Q processor on a machine they've built and not OC'd it.
Not to mention that the new Intel processors are so resilient, even when raising voltages to otherwise unheard of levels with other processors, having them die is exceedingly rare. People torture test these things with this goal going in and find that its quite difficult to do because of all the built in regulators the CPU's have. They will actually regulate voltages if they're too high by themselves. And if you read the new review on AT right now in regards to the QX9650 you will see that AT has recently discovered the same thing.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
how can it make zero sense. overclocking yields you minimal increases in real-world performance unless you're using your PC at load 24/7.
most people on these forums are either students or workers and aren't home for half the day.
overclocking also generates heat, some instability problems, voids warranties, and may require a $40-50 cooler to get you an extra 400mhz over stock. this translates to about 4% increase in performance.
in games there is a 1-2% increase from any overclock @ today's resolutions...
in video encoding you'll probably save yourself a few minutes on every movie...
nothing to see here
I'll refer you to everything I just said in regards to the new Intel processors. You can use the stock cooler and still get fantasitic gains. In the same Q6600 @ 3.0 ghz analysis your paying for a $260 processor and getting one that performs like a processor costing 4 or even 5 times as much. You don't need to raise voltages or get anything over stock cooling for decent gains with these things.
This next comment is said by someone who hasn't even bought an Intel processor since the original Pentium which I didn't actually buy it was in my first computer, since then I've owned nothing but AMD:
The fact is AMD is getting CRUSHED right now, when you factor in OC'ing it becomes a downright slaughter. And no amount of fanboyism will make that change for what could be a verylong time.
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