Core 2 Duo Mobo with DDR400 that doesn't suck?

Oct 10, 2005
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Hey guys,
I'm considering a sort of half upgrade (keeping everything but the CPU and mobo), but don't want to have to ditch my ddr400 and chip out more cash for DDR 2. Is there a motherboard that will allow me to keep my ddr400 and have a core 2 duo with good performance (and overclocking)? Or do core 2's simply require the higher bandwith provided by ddr2? Is there something that would fit my needs out there?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Actually, there may be something for you, but I cannot confirm it.

When LGA775 replaced socket-478, there were some decent ASUS boards which paired LGA775 with DDR memory.

I thought I came across some more recent examples of such boards while shopping for the parts in my "Double-Whopper" build -- running Orthos as we converse on this thread.

I didn't pay a lot of attention to those items. As for pairing a Core 2 Duo with DDR, this is not something that would be unfeasible -- it would actually be reasonable to find something like that in a cheaper motherboard. And by cheaper, I mean fewer options, less "bling," perhaps even with PCI-E graphics but not enough slots for SLI, possibly something in a micro-ATX form-factor.

Without recalling what your real options are, since I wasn't paying attention when I came across the board specs at reseller sites, I'd say your chances of building a decent but modest Conroe system -- even with DDR DRAM -- are high. But I would stick with the processors which are limited to 800 FSB -- E6300, for example.

As for over-clocking, it depends on how good the DDR400's are. Are they "low-latency-elastic" modules? Do they have really tight latencies that do not require loosening in order to over-clock maybe an additional 36 Mhz (DDR)? Or are they high-performance DDR500+ modules that can run at tighter latencies at lower speed, or maybe something like [3 or 4],4,4,8 at 533 Mhz?

Now . . . . I'll feel foolish if my thoughts here are proven wrong, but I do believe I saw some boards "out there." If the manufacturer has a good rep, and you don't find any product reviews pointing to failed quality control or unpredictable deviation from specs, it might work for you.

And does the budget-motherboard have a decent BIOS with some over-clocking options?
 

tcsenter

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I'm considering a sort of half upgrade (keeping everything but the CPU and mobo), but don't want to have to ditch my ddr400 and chip out more cash for DDR 2.
DDR2 memory right now is crazy cheap, approx. $50 ~ $55 per GIG. You can sell those DDR400 sticks on Ebay or something to pay for new DDR2:

Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-667 PC2-5300 CL5 KIT - $95.00 shipped

Mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800 PC2-6400 CL5 KIT - $115.00 shipped after $40.00 rebate


There is only one real option with support for Core 2 Duo + DDR400 + PCI Express graphics slot:

ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA LGA775 VIA PT880 Ultra ATX Motherboard - $67.00 shipped

Not a stellar overclocker but it supports moderate overclocking, and the PCI Express x16 is limited to x4 lane operation. Only supports 2 DIMMs up to 2GB MAX total, either DDR or DDR2, but not both at the same time. Supports SATA/150 and HD Audio. Also supports Quad Core.

ASRock Product Page: 4CoreDual-VSTA

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