Core 2 Duo for encoding DVDs question

[Lipservice]

My current S478 rig does about anything I need it to do OK. But it is getting dated.
Abit IC7/3.4 Prescott@3.8ghz/1gb DDR/X850Pro flashed to X850XT/Raptors in RAID0/etc.

Not much of a gamer at all. But I do rip a lot of DVDs and encode them with DVDRebuilder/Cinema Craft Encoder. An 8 pass CCE rip usually takes 4 to 5 hours.

Any one doing this with their C2D PCs? How fast are they at encoding a movie and how fast is your C2D PC?

 

[Markfw]

Well, it depends. F@H is twice as fast, 3x what my Pentium D's were.

 

[crispy2010]

Encoding video is twice as fast with my e6300 than it was with my 920d. I usally only do 1 pass but would imagine you going from single core preshott to dual core conroe would cut your 4-5 hours to under a hour!

If you have a test file I will run it for you and see how long it takes!

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Lipservice
My current S478 rig does about anything I need it to do OK. But it is getting dated.
Abit IC7/3.4 Prescott@3.8ghz/1gb DDR/X850Pro flashed to X850XT/Raptors in RAID0/etc.

Not much of a gamer at all. But I do rip a lot of DVDs and encode them with DVDRebuilder/Cinema Craft Encoder. An 8 pass CCE rip usually takes 4 to 5 hours.

Any one doing this with their C2D PCs? How fast are they at encoding a movie and how fast is your C2D PC?

Well it just so happens i also use DVD-RB + CCE.

I have an Opteron 165 i used to run @ 2.5 GHz, & now i have a C2D E6400 @ 3.4 GHz.

On the Opty w/ DVD-RB + CCE 5-pass, encoding jobs averaged 210-240 minutes.
On this C2D, it's taking 110-120 minutes to do the same

I'd estimate my Opteron OCed is roughly 70-100% faster than your P4 (as it's dual core), so you'd likely be seeing almost quadruple encoding speeds

Just rough guesstimates, but yeah, a C2D would be way over twice as good your P4, no matter how you figure it.

 

[Duvie]

Systems:

#1: (2) opteron 270 (2ghz) w/ 2gb Ram DC (per cpu) cas 2-3-3-6
#2: (2) opteron 265 (2.5ghz (9x277)) w/ 1gb Ram SC (per cpu) cas 2.5-3-3-8 133divder
#3: (1) E6600 (3.26ghz (7x466)) w/ 2gb Ram DC cas 5-5-5-15 (933ddr2)
#4: (1) E6300 (3.40ghz (7x486)) w/ 1gb Ram DC cas 4-4-4-12 (972ddr2)
#5: (1) QX6700 (3.2ghz (8x400)) w/ 512gb Ram SC cas 5-5-5-15 (1000ddr2)
#6: (1) QX6700 (3.3ghz (8x412)) w/ 1gb Ram DC cas 5-5-5-15 (1030ddr2)
#7: (1) QX6700 (2.66ghx (10x266)) w/ 1gb Ram DC cas 5-5-5-15 (800ddr2)
#8: (1) Q6600 (2.4ghz (9x266)) w/ 1gb Ram DC cas 5-5-5-15 (800ddr2)

Dvdshrink

I used Gone in 60 Seconds DVD. I ripped to HDD with DVD-decryptor to isolate cpus. I did a full back up less foreign languages...It is a 65% compression to keep it to DVD 4.7gb standard. I use sharp adaptive.

w/ deep analysis

#1------------------------21:01 (quad)
#2------------------------N/A
#3------------------------15:06 (dual)

w/o deep analysis:

#1------------------------24:54 (dual)
#1------------------------15:40 (quad)
#2------------------------N/A
#3------------------------11:02 (dual)
#4------------------------10:59 (dual)
#8-------------------------9:14 (quad) **NEW**
#7-------------------------8:28 (quad) *NEW*
#5-------------------------7:58 (quad) **max cpu usage was 85-88%**
#6-------------------------7:12 (quad)
#6-------------------------6:59 (quad) Rev w/ multiple HDDs


TMPGenc 2.52

First off I decided to convert a Hidef AVI file to MPEG2 DVD standard....Clip is a Trailer from Xmen 3...

First test was to use Automatic Variable Bitrate (setting 80 hi6000/lo2000) 8 bit and normal motion precision.

#1-----------------------2:00 (dual)
#1-----------------------1:44 (quad)
#2-----------------------1:42 (dual)
#2-----------------------1:29 (quad)
#3-----------------------0:57 (dual)
#4-----------------------0:55 (dual)
#5-----------------------0:56 (quad)

* note: as mentioned in earlier review 2 cores stays pegged around 48-50%, but 4 cores only shows around 58-60% cpu usage average with an occasional spike to 75%. It didn't use 3 cores effectively let alone 4. So the real comparison comes against system #1 using just 2 cores. It is 2x as fast

Second test was to use 2 pass Variable Bitrate (setting 80 hi6000/lo2000) 8 bit and normal motion compensation.


#1-----------------------3:56 (dual)
#1-----------------------3:28 (quad)
#2-----------------------N/A
#3-----------------------1:54 (dual)
#4-----------------------N/A
#5-----------------------1:53 (quad) ** cpu usage was around 54% max**

* note: Again same as above and same as noted previously...the real comparison is the system #1 with 2 cores. Again 2x as fast.

Third test was to use Automatic Variable Bitrate (setting 80 hi6000/lo2000) 10 bit component precision and High Quality motion precision. Merely higher quality finished product.


#1-----------------------3:00 (dual)
#1-----------------------1:53 (quad)
#2-----------------------N/A
#2-----------------------1:27 (quad)
#3-----------------------1:25 (dual)
#4-----------------------1:19 (dual)
#8-----------------------1:11 (quad) **NEW**
#7-----------------------1:05 (quad) *NEW*
#5-----------------------0:58 (quad)
#6-----------------------0:54 (quad)
#6-----------------------0:52 (quad) Rev w/ multiple HDDs

 

[Duvie]

In dvdshrink C2D owns X2.....

Notice how Q6600 at 2.4ghz stock settings was sooo much faster then stock 2.0ghz opteron cores (4 of them)...#1 (quad) versus #3....The Intel is 20% faster in core speed but that translated to 52% faster perfromance. Clock for clock C2D should be ahead 30%

2 cores of a E6600 at 3.26ghz was more then twice as fast as 4 cores of opteron 270 at 2ghz....combined 6.52ghz was 2 plus times faster then 8ghz of AMD cores

DVDshrink can get close to 4 cores of use generaly averaging about 80-88% usage. The AMDs wer slower performers and therefore I had less IO bottlenecks so they actually scaled better from 2 to 4 cores..sTILL LOST BIG...

The TMPGenc quad test were heavilt IO limited so mainly look at the dual core test. an opteron 270 (2 cores) only 20% less in clock speed was beatn again by 50% speed...



Edit: go to tomshardware, anandtech, and tech report and look at the reviews...I think it is 20%+ lead clock to clock for the C2D intels....

That is 20% faster versus same speed X2/ opteron chip though you could likely never hit same levels of OCs on an X2/opteron with air as you could with a C2D...

X2?opterons likely top out at 2.8-3ghz on air while some have C2Ds in teh 3.4-3.6ghz range.... So basicallt 20% faster clock for clock and can OC on average 25% higher...

 

[Chunkee]

very nice duvie...good tests for comparison and some numbers....thanks for putting them up.

jC

 

[Lipservice]

Nice! You guys are great. Sounds like perhaps 4X faster than my current setup? What I have is an overkill for surfing the internet, fine for all apps I use, and runs the few games I play fine [believe it or not... hunting games only].

I do not care about bragging rights but to encode movies as fast as the C2D systems would sure be nice.

Thinking now of a good midrange board like the GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 or Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe with a reasonable overclock on an E6600...

 

[Markfw]

get the DS3 or the less exspensive S3, and some PC 8000 memory for a good EASY OC. The 6600 only has more cache, won't OC better than a 6400 from what we have seen. 3.4 on either is a good expectation.