Cops shouldn't pull you over when they have no reason to

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

She's in a hole; I say let 'her' keep digging. :laugh:

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

Not when they're targets of a raid.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

Not when they're targets of a raid.

Are you on drugs?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

Not when they're targets of a raid.

Are you on drugs?

No. Are you?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

Not when they're targets of a raid.

right. so in the future they need to notify the people that they are a target of a raid (legal or not) so they don't defent themselves.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Do you honestly think she would have fired her gun if she knew the armed men breaking into her home were police officers serving a no-knock warrant?

Do you honestly think the officers would have fired their guns if she didn't fire her gun first?

Wow. Just wow.

Cops don't have a right to self-defense in the line of duty?

Citizens don't have the right to self-defense in their own home?

Not when they're targets of a raid.

Are you on drugs?

No. Are you?

Hey I had to make sure. I was about to call the cops to go break down your door, thought you might be a coke dealer.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: OdiN
What is so wrong about answering a few questions? If it helps them catch someone who otherwise would have robbed someone or murdered someone, I have no problem taking a few minutes out of my day to talk with an officer. I know several personally and they are some of the best guys I know. Very normal down to earth, though they take their job seriously and really are there to help keep the citizens here safe.

I'm of the opinion that racial profiling is BS. Look...if you want to dress up like a thug, expect to be treated like one. If you want to give the impression of being a stupid dumbass by the way you dress and handle yourself, fine by me - but I will treat you like one.

So, we are all guilty until proven innocent? Perfectly fine for police to assume someone is up to no go right? Please...

Okay...where did I say that? Oh? Nowhere? That's right.

Sorry I was being ambiguous. Let me put it this way. Why do the police pull you over? Because they think something is wrong, correct? What if nothing is wrong and they still pull you over? Doesn't that mean they assume you to be guilty of something? Tell me, what happens if in one of these situations you get pulled over and fail to answer the questions correctly? Oh, your arrested you say? But you did nothing wrong but fail a test by an officer that shouldn't have pulled you over in the first place. When the premise is on you to prove your innocence by saying the right thing, you are being treated like a guilty person until you prove yourself innocent.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cogman

You know what, they can hold onto their gun if their is probable cause, but if there is danger from pulling over someone for no reason it is their own freaking fault. I don't care that it is a hard job, that doesn't make it right, They signed up for it and it is something they should be doing right.

Are you insane ?

Are you? If you are taking a risk for no freaking reason then it is your own fault, especially when the law is against you. Oh wait, because you enforce the law, you get to choose where it is for or against you ...

Someone could be prone to panicking and run for it. Someone could have an innate fear of cops, whatever the reason. But if they do nothing wrong and the cop triggers something that makes them go crazy then it is that cops fault for harasing the pubic. Im not saying the persons actions would be justified, but neither was the cops in the first place.

I have no problem with them holding onto their gun when they have any probable cause (Even a speeding ticket) but every resentment if they have no cause at all.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Bober let me ask you:

Have you ever gone through a checkout line and the cashier rung you up wrong?

Assuming you say yes, that would mean that all cashiers are horrible people that were trying to take your hard earned American money right?

Transition over to cops. Have you ever met a cop that was out of line? Assuming yes, based on your responses, does that mean ALL cops are bad?

I'll tell ya what, you need a Yes or No to both answer. Not both a Yes and a No-- Doesn't work like that.

-Kevin

PS: I would also like to ask you when you have ever seen a Police officer harass someone with their firearm drawn. I don't even take my Knight stick out of its holster unless I feel severely threatened.

You don't see a difference between the person a cashier and a cop? Here's a hint, douchebag. Only one of them is allowed to shoot people without consequence. Maybe the problem in this country is that there are too many morons like you who are cops but feel you should only be held to the same standard as cashiers.

Tell you what, when cashiers are allowed to taser customers that complain, then you'll have an argument.

Look I haven't insulted you ONCE in this entire thread. Why don't you grow up, stop acting like an immature little 12 year old who thinks his way is the only possible way, and have a discussion like someone who cares about SOMEONE else in this world. If you can't do that then why don't you leave everyone in this thread alone?

There are so many problems with what you just said, I don't know where to begin.

1. Police are not allowed to "shoot people without consequence"
2. Learn to analyze the analogy and not make a direct comparison.
3. Police are not allowed to taser people who complain. It is in self-defense or when someone is being aggressive/belligerent.
4. Never once did I say that I as a Law Enforcement Officer should be the only one capable of defending myself. In fact, I believe I said Self-Defense is a "loophole" (That was not meant to demean self-defense, it was just for lack of a better word. I apologize to the poster a few posts up) to laws.
5. I don't believe the article was specific whether the police announced their presence. Just because you have a no knock warrant doesn't mean you go in covertly and start shooting at will!
6. As for your last post, I believe I stated MULTIPLE TIMES that "people most definitely have a right to defend themselves anywhere".

-Kevin

 

[GiggleGirl]

i was recently pulled over for NO REASON! when i asked the officer why i was pulled over, he said to me, "we are required to run 5 random plates an hour" (or something to that degree- or every car they get behind so as not to seem discriminatory)... it was fucking 7:45 in the morning and i had JUST dropped my daughter off at school and was abiding by every law.

then unfortunately for me, my license had been suspended because my car insurance lapsed and due to my recent move, i was unaware of this or the fact my license was suspended because my mail was not properly forwarded. UGH fucking ridiculous.

of course i had to financially and legally deal with getting those things fixed and in hindsight im glad i found out these things occurred but i shouldnt have had to figure it out because my plates were RANDOMLY run........ i smell foul play.....

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i was recently pulled over for NO REASON! when i asked the officer why i was pulled over, he said to me, "we are required to run 5 random plates an hour" (or something to that degree- or every car they get behind so as not to seem discriminatory)... it was fucking 7:45 in the morning and i had JUST dropped my daughter off at school and was abiding by every law.

then unfortunately for me, my license had been suspended because my car insurance lapsed and due to my recent move, i was unaware of this or the fact my license was suspended because my mail was not properly forwarded. UGH fucking ridiculous.

of course i had to financially and legally deal with getting those things fixed and in hindsight im glad i found out these things occurred but i shouldnt have had to figure it out because my plates were RANDOMLY run........ i smell foul play.....

Some how I find it hard to believe all of these stories on ATOT. Every time I hear "I was pulled over for no reason" and that the Police Officer in question has to meet some sort of quota I immediately question the validity.

-Kevin

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i was recently pulled over for NO REASON! when i asked the officer why i was pulled over, he said to me, "we are required to run 5 random plates an hour" (or something to that degree- or every car they get behind so as not to seem discriminatory)... it was fucking 7:45 in the morning and i had JUST dropped my daughter off at school and was abiding by every law.

then unfortunately for me, my license had been suspended because my car insurance lapsed and due to my recent move, i was unaware of this or the fact my license was suspended because my mail was not properly forwarded. UGH fucking ridiculous.

of course i had to financially and legally deal with getting those things fixed and in hindsight im glad i found out these things occurred but i shouldnt have had to figure it out because my plates were RANDOMLY run........ i smell foul play.....

Some how I find it hard to believe all of these stories on ATOT. Every time I hear "I was pulled over for no reason" and that the Police Officer in question has to meet some sort of quota I immediately question the validity.

-Kevin

Even with that, what the cop did was perfectly legal. As long as he doesn't pull over every black person he sees, and he does it randomly, he can stop a person randomly, if he has a quota to fill. You know why? Its to catch people who don't have insurance, valid licenses registation. You happen to be one of them

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
i was recently pulled over for NO REASON! when i asked the officer why i was pulled over, he said to me, "we are required to run 5 random plates an hour" (or something to that degree- or every car they get behind so as not to seem discriminatory)... it was fucking 7:45 in the morning and i had JUST dropped my daughter off at school and was abiding by every law.

then unfortunately for me, my license had been suspended because my car insurance lapsed and due to my recent move, i was unaware of this or the fact my license was suspended because my mail was not properly forwarded. UGH fucking ridiculous.

of course i had to financially and legally deal with getting those things fixed and in hindsight im glad i found out these things occurred but i shouldnt have had to figure it out because my plates were RANDOMLY run........ i smell foul play.....

Some how I find it hard to believe all of these stories on ATOT. Every time I hear "I was pulled over for no reason" and that the Police Officer in question has to meet some sort of quota I immediately question the validity.

-Kevin

Even with that, what the cop did was perfectly legal. As long as he doesn't pull over every black person he sees, and he does it randomly, he can stop a person randomly, if he has a quota to fill. You know why? Its to catch people who don't have insurance, valid licenses registation. You happen to be one of them

There is absolutely no such thing as a quota. Ask any reputable Police Officer.

 

[Pepsi90919]

You should have said absolutely nothing. You have no information to offer but your licence; do not talk to the police.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Because kids driving around that late at night are usually up to no good and it's suspicious.

No it's not, leave them alone.

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
You should have said absolutely nothing. You have no information to offer but your licence; do not talk to the police.

well i wouldnt know. im not the kind of person who has run-ins with the law. people told this to me afterward but i had no idea...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

There is absolutely no such thing as a quota. Ask any reputable Police Officer.

lolz

Ask any politician if there is such thing as kick-backs.