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Cops kill rancher trying to put down bull

GarfieldtheCat

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http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/article43654638.html

Police dispatch calls rancher to tell him that one of his bulls was hit by a car and needed to be put down.

Rancher goes to do this, sees:

1. Cops just randomly shooting animal with their AR15 and pistols, which is pretty inhumane.

2. Gets his rifle, walks to bull puts his rifle to the bulls head to humanely put him down, has his back to the cops, when the cops come up wank him around, and the rifle discharges.

Cops proceed to then open fire on him, killing him while wife and friend look on. Wife and friend are then threatened and handcuffed while the man is left dead on the ground, no help given to him.

Yup, just another random police accident I am sure. #fewbadapples and all that.

Good think our cop apologists tell us this is rare and not a problem. Yup, sure glad cops are murdering people ever day. That would be a real problem wouldn't it?

An bets that they serve any time for this?

Edit: I thought this was a repost - I'm nearly certain it is. But, I can't find the original post. -Admin DrPizza
 
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Capt Caveman

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Need to hear the police officer's account b/c the families account smells like bs. From other articles, the cops were shooting at the bull b/c it was presenting a danger to emergency personnel and other drivers at the scene. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-battle-with-bull-in-the-middle-leaves-rancher-dead/

The injured bull began charging emergency responders as they worked to get the driver and passenger out of the car, according to the Idaho State Police, the agency that is investigating the shooting.

"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said.

Yantis, the bull's owner, arrived with a rifle just as deputies decided to put down the animal.

There was an altercation, and Yantis and two deputies all fired their weapons, State Police said in a statement.

Yantis died at the scene, and one deputy suffered a minor injury.

The bull also was shot and killed.
 
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Need to hear the police officer's account b/c the families account smells like bs. From other articles, the cops were shooting at the bull b/c it was presenting a danger to emergency personnel and other drivers at the scene.

That's not in dispute. It's also not a reason to shoot the owner. And these stories often sound like bs until the truth comes out verifying them. Story after story after and you types still do what you do. SMH
 
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LMAO!!!! Capt Caveman tends to be on the same side as you SMH!!!

He's welcome to show some rationality and come back over then. How often do these stories end on the side of the cop defenders? Maybe this one will, but unless this guy in some fit of rage threatened the officers this wasn't justified.
 

Capt Caveman

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That's not in dispute. It's also not a reason to shoot the owner. And these stories often sound like bs until the truth comes out verifying them. Story after story after and you types still do what you do. SMH

Who the hell said it was reason to shoot the cattle owner? The OP says that the police officers were shooting randomly at the bull and didn't state a reason.

Forgot, people in P&N lack reading comprehension or brains.
 

Londo_Jowo

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He's welcome to show some rationality and come back over then. How often do these stories end on the side of the cop defenders? Maybe this one will, but unless this guy in some fit of rage threatened the officers this wasn't justified.

Yes, but as usual let's go full blown cop hate mode without having all the information. I would say it has been a 50/50 split as to whether the police are in the wrong. I haven't seen where anyone has attempted to justify this shooting, only state there wasn't enough/possibly incorrect information.
 
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Who the hell said it was reason to shoot the cattle owner? The OP says that the police officers were shooting randomly at the bull and didn't state a reason.

Forgot, people in P&N lack reading comprehension or brains.

The article in the OP says exactly this:
The bull started charging people at the crash scene.
Actually reading articles before ranting about others' comprehension ftw.
 

CitizenKain

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According to someone else on here, we can't hold these cops to any accountability, because that would be bad.
 

Capt Caveman

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The article in the OP says exactly this:

Actually reading articles before ranting about others' comprehension ftw.

And I was responding to the OP, did you not read this? Yes, you lack reading comprehension.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/article43654638.html

Police dispatch calls rancher to tell him that one of his bulls was hit by a car and needed to be put down.

Rancher goes to do this, sees:

1. Cops just randomly shooting animal with their AR15 and pistols, which is pretty inhumane.

edit - please, quote form the OP's article where it's stated that the police were shooting it b/c it was charging people. This is the orginal quote:

Yantis had raised and tamed the 2,500-pound black Gelbvieh bull, similar to an Angus, named Keiford. Its rear leg was shattered by the collision with a Subaru station wagon. The bull started charging people at the crash scene.

Paradis walked down to check out the situation. The injured bull had made its way back to the driveway and was lying in the grass.

“He knew he was home,” Paradis said. “He was hurt. But he is still an Angus bull on the fight.”

Then

“They opened up with their pistols and their M16s ... before Jack got there,” Paradis said. “That’s an inhumane deal. ... This is a 2-ton Angus bull that’s pissed off, he’s hurt and psychotic. ... It was blazing down there and it sounded like World War III on this bull, because they got him charging at everyone again.”

So, the bull initially charged emergency responders then went to lay down. And from the OP's article, the police started shooting the bull and got it charging everyone again.
 
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So, the bull initially charged emergency responders then went to lay down. And from the OP's article, the police started shooting the bull and got it charging everyone again.

OK, so everyone agrees that the cops weren't effectively putting the bull down... What are you still trying to argue over exactly?
 

chucky2

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My first thought, knowing almost nothing about livestock, is: No one had a 12g with slugs? AR-15 is all these guys had/have???
 

Capt Caveman

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OK, so everyone agrees that the cops weren't effectively putting the bull down... What are you still trying to argue over exactly?

Correcting you for your lack of reading comprehension and calling me a cop defender which is the last thing that I am. Now, that you've been corrected, you can go whine about something else.
 

CZroe

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According to someone else on here, we can't hold these cops to any accountability, because that would be bad.


LOL! You want to hold them accountable before even having anything to hold them accountable for. "Bu bu but, the OP claims MURDER!" :rolleyes:

The OP hyperbole implies that they were on a murderous rampage and just wanted to kill someone and stir up more cop hatred without any actual motive. It's hilarious that you would side with it rather than call it out when the accusation doesn't even make sense in your distorted reality.
 

Subyman

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With so many police and responders there, hopefully some video comes out. Hard to know how it went down. The rancher was armed and loaded, which was probably a bad idea when interacting with police on a public road way.
 

CZroe

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With so many police and responders there, hopefully some video comes out. Hard to know how it went down. The rancher was armed and loaded, which was probably a bad idea when interacting with police on a public road way.

...with the obvious chaos that a raging bull on the rampage would inject.

Actually, I don't blame him for having the gun to put down his animal, but it sounds like he got in the line of fire to do so.
 

CZroe

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And I was responding to the OP, did you not read this? Yes, you lack reading comprehension.



edit - please, quote form the OP's article where it's stated that the police were shooting it b/c it was charging people. This is the orginal quote:



Then



So, the bull initially charged emergency responders then went to lay down. And from the OP's article, the police started shooting the bull and got it charging everyone again.


Ah. So the bull was home safe and no longer a threat until they shot it. I'm glad someone understands what's going through a bull's mind when it moves to a particular unmarked patch of ground. :rolleyes:

The emergency responders don't know what the bull is thinking. All they know is that it already rampaged once and that it probably will again if they don't deal with it while they have the chance. Why would anyone assume that it makes more sense that they just wanted to torture an animal and murder a rancher?! Oh: because they think cops are evil cartoon character villains and this just adds to their confirmation bias that they will point to the next time they think statistics bear out their skepticism.

Jesus.
 
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HumblePie

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LOL,

Capt Caveman was basically pointing out that the original story in the OP's link basically states that the witnesses to the story in the OP don't know if the bull started charging at the police before the police opened fire or after they opened fire. If it was before then the police are a bunch of fucktard half wits. If it was after then the they are less fucktard halfwits as they were shooting to hopefully stop the rampaging bull and doing a bad job of it.

However, if what was described by the witnesses to the story as given is fairly accurate as to the death of Jack, then those cops are murderers.
 

Subyman

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I highly doubt the interactive went down like in the OP:

"The rancher, with tears in his eyes, rested the muzzle of his rifle on the bull's head as it peacefully lay on the ground, breathing heavily. As the rancher mercifully tensed the trigger, he was murdered by police."

I don't think the police murdered the man while we was in an Ole Yeller moment. Curious to see how this thing played out.
 

WHAMPOM

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Buck fever, shoot and shoot at anything that moves until you are out of ammunition. Anyone besides me think it is just cops out of control?