Cops Execute Restrained Dog (Video)

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daw123

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LOL "execution" "assassination" It's just a damn dog. I've "assassinated" at least 40,000 animals so shoot me.

How old are you and what is your job?

The reason that I ask is that if you are 50 years old (an arbitrary number plucked out of thin air), then: 50 years x 365 days/year = 18,250 days.

Hence you have killed at least two animals per every day of your life (since you were born), therefore you must work in a slaughter house, or something of that ilk where you are killing animals on a very regular basis, where you have effectively become desensitized to it.

If you are not lying on the numbers, then it is no surprise that you don't care about the dog in the OP's video.

Edit: Or you have worked in a slaughter house or similar animal-killing profession.
 
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Perknose

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Pit bulls tail wags when they fight. They love that shit more than life itself.

The dog in the video was "wagging" its tail in mortal agony while lying on its side after being gut shot by the officer who already had it secured in a ten foot snare pole and was in ZERO danger.

NO ONE was in any danger.

This was an incredibly unnecessary shooting. I'll bet that officer, obviously totally untrained for the job, feels secretly bad about what he did.

I HOPE he does, anyway.
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Zebo

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How old are you and what is your job?

The reason that I ask is that if you are 50 years old (an arbitrary number plucked out of thin air), then: 50 years x 365 days/year = 18,250 days.

Hence you have killed at least two animals per every day of your life (since you were born), therefore you must work in a slaughter house, or something of that ilk where you are killing animals on a very regular basis, where you have effectively become desensitized to it.

If you are not lying on the numbers, then it is no surprise that you don't care about the dog in the OP's video.
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Well I fish at least 3x a week there is ~36 each time.
I hunted dove, quail, since I was 5. Never failed to get limit before 9 am. 15 is limit.
Do this about every third day in season. And there is no limit in Mexico We come back with HUNDREDS.
Deer get at least 2 a year. Between bow, muzzle and rifle seasons.
Turkey about 5 a year.
Pheasant I bag at least 200 a year.
Rabbit, crow and squirrels I killed probably 1000 between them.

I'm probably low balling if you include minnows which there are about 60 in a lb and every other day I buy another pound.
 

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You really should, if you have any doubts as to the legitimacy of this killing.

For the full seven minutes, the dog was NEVER agressive, only running a little away when they tried to put the pole snare on her. Each time they stopped, the dog would simply stand or sit in a TOTALLY non-aggressive posture.

I can't emphasize this enough. Just watch, you'll see.

Then, when they had the rigid pole snare on the dog, there was no way the dog could possibly escape OR attack them!

ALL the dog did then was wiggle a bit trying to get out of the snare. It posed zero danger to either officer.

The officer then CALMLY takes out his pistol while in zero danger and executes the dog.

Just WATCH IT if you don't believe me.

Disgusting.
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Completely agree but the officer will get away with it by claiming he felt threatened.
Never mind the fact that if he did not feel comfortable with putting the snare on the dog he could have waited for animal control, ie profesionals, to handle it from there. The dog was on a leach and was not a threat to anybody up to that point.


My dog got run over by a car a month or so ago and I am still having a hard time with it. Watching this was rather infuriating.
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Zebo

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The dog in the video was "wagging" its tail in mortal agony while lying on its side after being gut shot by the officer who already had it secured in a ten foot snare pole and was in ZERO danger.

NO ONE was in any danger.

This was an incredibly unnecessary shooting. I'll bet that officer, obviously totally untrained for the job, feels secretly bad about what he did.

I HOPE he does, anyway.
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He feels bad... look how he slams tailgate. But he felt he had no option way dog was trying to attack pole and him. He was indeed untrained and did not have a kennel apparently to usher dog into. He's a puss I would not have shot it I would have told my partner to call for a kennel. But I'm not going to second guess this cop because it a damn pitbull, one that had shown aggression historically and with officer. And no matter what "inexperience" a dog is worth nothing compared to a human. In case law and morally.
 

mizzou

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I like how the dickhead thought he could chain a bulldogto his truck to keep the cops at bay


$EDIT, maybe I should read the story

Anyway, I still have no sympathy for someone who owns a large animal and fails to restrain it properly. It deserved to die, I'm surprised they even bothered trying to restrain it.

I am beside myself when I see pitbulls/bulldogs/rottweilers all caged up like horrid beasts in trailer parks/ghettos/poorly kept backyards/ etc...

After disposing of the animal they need to do the same to the owner.
 
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shiner

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It was a pit bull. If anything, the cops should get a Michael Vick Medal of Valor.

It was an American Bulldog, not a Pit Bull. I had an American Bulldog once and it was a very gentle and loving dog.

Even if it were a Pit, to condemn a breed is idiotic. It is how they are raised, not what breed they are.
 

Zebo

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You guys realize dogs are personal property not human beings right? Shooting that dog is no different in eyes of law than shooting a snake on your property.
 

mizzou

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It was an American Bulldog, not a Pit Bull. I had an American Bulldog once and it was a very gentle and loving dog.

Even if it were a Pit, to condemn a breed is idiotic. It is how they are raised, not what breed they are.

I think seeing a dog unrestrained is enough to assume the animal was incorrectly raised
 

shiner

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I think seeing a dog unrestrained is enough to assume the animal was incorrectly raised

So dogs that run free are poorly trained. I've known a shitload of bird dogs who would beg to differ. Out here in the country people let their dogs roam, doesn't mean they are poorly raised or not cared for.
 

Perknose

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He feels bad... look how he slams tailgate. But he felt he had no option way dog was trying to attack pole and him.

Bullshit. The dog was NOT trying to attack him. You claim great experience with animals, but ANYONE viewing that video who knows dogs knows that animal did not display aggression even one single time.

...one that had shown aggression historically and with officer.
Bullshit two more times.

There was NO hard evidence of the dog displaying aggression, just the story of one woman who said the dog growled at her and her daughter, as any dog might when you passed their territory in defense. NO ATTACK, just one entirely uncorroborated story.

This was most certainly not enough to execute that already restrained dog.

As for aggression towards the officer? I watched the entire video. Not ONE time did the dog display ANY aggression towards the officer.

NOT ONE TIME in the entire 7 minute vid.
 

Zebo

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Perk you missed the circling of the officer biting pole and snarling.
 

Perknose

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Perk you missed the circling of the officer biting pole and snarling.

Any animal, any dog, on which a stranger summarily affixes a restraining device will attempt to get out of that device! That dog did NOT attempt to attack the officer, it's sole focus was on getting out of the snare, which is entirely natural. WATCH the video, it is beyond evident.

You (or anyone else who knows dogs like I do) have only to watch the entire video to KNOW that that dog was not a threat whatsoever.

How, having watched the video (I assume), how can you not know and see that?

My dogs have almost never ever worn leashes, even in urban environments.* They have gone with me to innumerable public events, even BARS! They have always been under my absolute voice control. Hell, it goes beyond mere voice control; it's a matter of gesture.

I really know dogs. That poor bulldog (not a pit bull, btw) was ZERO threat. You have only to watch the video to KNOW that.

Now, deeper responsibility for this situation does lie with the owner.

But that officer NEEDLESSLY AND UNFORGIVABLY executed that dog.

He may have been put in a situation for which he was woefully untrained, but he fucked up royally and beyond any semblance of "well, gee, I could see where he had no choice."

It makes me really angry that I had to watch that brutally unnecessary execution.

If you hunt, Z, then I would assume you have a deeper understanding of dogs and animals in general than you have displayed to date in this thread.




* Philadelphia has a governing "under voice control" statute. I lived there for more than two years with my Great Dane, Bogie. While there, we picked up two more dogs that were casually thrown aside by U of Penn students leaving for the year.

My thought on the matter was, "I already have 165 pounds of Dane, what's another 35-40?

We went everywhere without a leash! Cops would challenge me, I would demonstrate my ABSOLUTE voice control, and that would be that.

There were even a couple of (Irish owned, don't ya' know) bars that would let my dogs come in with me (technically illegal).

Once, some oncoming Penn co-eds asked of Bogie, "Is he ok?"

"Don't worry," I answered, "he only attacks virgins."

They laughed and relaxed.

Years later, up in Bucks County, my wonderful mixed-breed lady Cinnamon went everywhere with me, even and especially to church, NEVER on a leash!

Before she passed, she became the only quadruped ever to become an official member of my congregation!

Just saying. I know dogs.

That bulldog was NO threat.
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Zebo

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I already said I would not have shot the dog. But I like dogs. I know dogs. But like you already surmised this dude had no training. To the inexperienced, such as cop, this dog was threatening. Before cop even arrived he had word of viciousness. A American bulldog or pit bull is stigmatized to be viscous so that was playing on officers psyche as well. Then when handling dog, there were points that could be construed as viciousness by an inexperienced handler. We can't get inside his head ... maybe he was terrified and feared for his safty how ever irrational that seems to you in the eyes of the law he can put it down.. Period.
 

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When will people realize that domesticated animals are a luxury, not a natural phenomenon?

The cops did the right thing, and saved everyone else the future hassle of dealing with this asshole and his dog.

I'm hardly a fan of government nomenclature but:

Mays described the animal as an American bulldog, but authorities termed it a pit bull.
I live in a dog infested neighborhood and I know the owners that try to be cute and change the classification of their dog are obnoxious, careless cunts. The guy sounds like an asshole, I'm glad the cops took the dog out.

Howell fired one shot to the chest, which felled the animal. On the video, the dog can then be seen wagging its tail. Howell said he fired a shot to the head “because I didn’t want the dog to suffer.”
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“I don’t feel (Cammie) was vicious,” he said. “I feel I stood up for her.”
yea, I bet you didn't asshole. Sounds like you were away from your damned mutt most of the time, letting your dog shit on other people's lawns and having to put up with a dog already known for being vicious growling at them. There's enough drama and dogshit people have to deal with without some low life bringing an ill mannered brute into the neighborhood.
 
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TehMac

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Damn. I bet less dogs died than that.

It's what happens when people concede control of their lives to governments. They get treated worse than mongrels and then wonder how it happened...
 

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I live in a dog infested neighborhood and I know the owners that try to be cute and change the classification of their dog are obnoxious, careless cunts. The guy sounds like an asshole, I'm glad the cops took the dog out.

I hate fucking retarded fucks. Obviously you are one of them. Watch the fucking video.. They shot a dog that was RESTRAINED. How can you be so blind to something that you see with your own eyes?

I was going to say something about you being a Bush vote, but apparently you are just completely retarded. Incapable of logic.
 

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When will people realize that domesticated animals are a luxury, not a natural phenomenon?

The cops did the right thing, and saved everyone else the future hassle of dealing with this asshole and his dog.

I'm hardly a fan of government nomenclature but:


I live in a dog infested neighborhood and I know the owners that try to be cute and change the classification of their dog are obnoxious, careless cunts. The guy sounds like an asshole, I'm glad the cops took the dog out.


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yea, I bet you didn't asshole. Sounds like you were away from your damned mutt most of the time, letting your dog shit on other people's lawns and having to put up with a dog already known for being vicious growling at them. There's enough drama and dogshit people have to deal with without some low life bringing an ill mannered brute into the neighborhood.

Dogs are not like any random animal. To MANY people, dogs can be the best companions in the world. To these people, they're not pet hamsters you keep around for amusement. It seems you're not a fan of dogs. That's fine. But others are and they don't get to be treated like a nuisance just because they exist. And owners change the classification of their dogs because they know when a random person hears "pit bull" they immediately reel back in fear thinking the dog is some vicious brute. In fact, most of these dogs are the most loving animals in the world. I wouldn't go classifying them as assholes without putting yourself in their shoes.
 

tcsenter

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Its an emotional issue. Some people get this bent out-of-shape over someone stomping on a rat.

I don't like or support what happened but its evident this officer had a pucker factor that was off the charts. He was not comfortable with or trained for what he was doing, and that's not his fault. Contrary to what some might believe, NOT every town or burb or rural county has trained animal control officers available (hell, many animal control officers aren't all that well trained).

Even in my town or county, if you call about a vicious dog after 5:30pm, or ANY hour on the weekend or major holidays, there are NO animal control officers on the job and NONE on-call. A police officer with no animal training or experience (unless he received it elsewhere) will respond and decide what to do. i.e. let it be, try to catch it, or shoot it.

Everyone is a Dog Whisperer on the internet but this is real life. What if it were a horse? Would you still be so confident that you could handle this kind of animal? I would, but I also realize that not everyone is competent around a horse (or insert any other type of potentially dangerous animal here). Police don't have the luxury of saying "Nah, I'm not really good with this. Call someone else." There often isn't "someone else". Police are the first ones to complain when they don't have the training, expertise, or resources, but they don't always get to say "Let someone else handle that."

In all likelihood, this cop feels pretty awful about the situation and wishes there could have been someone else available with more expertise than him. But wishful thinking and 45 cents won't even buy a cup of coffee.
 
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