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Cop shoots 70 year old man during a traffic stop as he was going for his cane.

Jodell88

Jodell88

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The South Carolina deputy who shot a 70-year-old man during a traffic stop after mistaking his cane for a shotgun during an after-dark traffic stop broke down in tears as other officers arrived, according to dashcam video released Wednesday.

York County Deputy Terrance Knox is on administrative leave as state agents investigate the shooting last month of Bobby Canipe of North Carolina. In the video, Canipe quickly pulls over on the four-lane highway near Clover outside Charlotte after Knox puts on his blue lights and siren.

Officials say Knox, a three-year veteran of the department, pulled over the pickup truck because of an expired license plate, CBS affiliate WBTV reports.

Canipe gets out of the pickup and turns toward the bed without acknowledging Knox as the deputy yells "Sir!" three times. Canipe reaches in the back and pulls out a slender object with the tip pointed at the officer. Knox yells "Whoa!" several times as he fires a half-dozen shots.
"It's a walking stick," Canipe said as the shots ended.

Knox shouted an expletive as he immediately ran to check on Canipe, who was hit once and expected to recover. The whole sequence takes about 15 seconds.

Knox begins to sob when another officer arrives a few minutes later and puts his arm around him.

"I promise to God I thought it was a shotgun," Knox said in tears.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-shows-south-carolina-deputy-crying-after-shooting-70-year-old-man/

The old guy just exited the truck and proceeded to grab something from the back seat. I can definitely see why the officer thought he was under threat and had to use lethal force.

The old man lived, surprisingly.
 
Jodell88 said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-shows-south-carolina-deputy-crying-after-shooting-70-year-old-man/

The old guy just exited the truck and proceeded to grab something from the back seat. I can definitely see why the officer thought he was under threat and had to use lethal force.

The old man lived, surprisingly.
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70 year old dumbass.

You don't exit your vehicle after getting pulled over. If you wish to proceed with that ill-advised idea, you especially don't begin to reach for long slender objects.


Good thing the officer's life didn't depend on his accuracy with firearms.
Unless the idea is to spread firepower over a large area to make it more likely they are suppressed but still have a chance of walking away, albeit with a hole or two.
 
Knox yells "Whoa!" several times as he fires a half-dozen shots.
"It's a walking stick," Canipe said as the shots ended.

Knox shouted an expletive as he immediately ran to check on Canipe, who was hit once and expected to recover. The whole sequence takes about 15 seconds.
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yowza.
 
destrekor said:
70 year old dumbass.

You don't exit your vehicle after getting pulled over. If you wish to proceed with that ill-advised idea, you especially don't begin to reach for long slender objects.
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These are generation things. When the 70 year-old was a young whippersnapper, that was pretty common. You just get out of the car and talk to the cop. No one expected a cop to shoot them for opening a door, probably because people weren't assumed to be wanted to shoot cops that approached their vehicle.

Honestly, I think that is pretty common with the older generation that was used to a more polite society. I recall not too many years ago, driving through some backwoods in eastern NC with my dad, he ran a stop sign on some unnamed forgotten state highway and pulled over. First thing he did was get out of the car and chat with the officer. Seemed strange then--even a decade+ ago, but it seemed very normal to those two.

All in all, this is just really tragic. I can't see putting any blame on the elderly man or the officer, probably acting with instinct through training.


But this might precipitate a border war between NC and SC, which I fully support. We get the peach trees and Charleston, they can keep Myrtle beach.

:colbert:
 
If I was a cop I would shoot first. Then I would ask questions later.

Today's world is crazy! 🙁
 
Six shots, hits the guy once? I'm not sure exactly how much training these officers get with their firearms, but I think it's safe to say that they're getting the wrong kind of training.
 
madoka said:
I hear that cops got a lot more trigger happy (understandably so) after watching what happened to this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ
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I hate watching that one, the cop was clearly flustered and wasn't sure what to do. I dislike quarterbacking stuff, but he made a critical error in not engaging physically earlier enough and letting him walk back to his truck.

Traffic stops are some of the most risky things a police officer does because they never know if its a school mouse or a pysychopath
 
Kadarin said:
Six shots, hits the guy once? I'm not sure exactly how much training these officers get with their firearms, but I think it's safe to say that they're getting the wrong kind of training.
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I love how movies/Hollywood really color people's perceptions about aim/killing prowess. The reality is that cops hit their target somewhere around 10% - 20% of the time. Most cops go to the range once or twice a year to qualify, and that's it.

The armchair Rambos always chime in (not accusing you of being one) that they would hit their target 6 out of 6 (probably hard to tell because all bullets would go through the same hole).

The truth is that going to the range, carefully lining up your target, and shooting paper is not going to prepare you for the real thing. This guy was 20 - 30 feet away, it was nighttime, his heart was racing from the adrenaline, he presumably never had to pull the trigger on a person before, etc. Combine all that and it's lucky ANY bullets hit their intended target. Anyone who thinks they'd do superbly better than this cop is just lying to themselves.
 
Ns1 said:
it's ridiculous that the guy is still on death row and is appealing his sentence.
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Yeah, I would have supported executing him the next month.

Or at least just throw him in solitary and let him live a sensory-deprived life.
 
What the fuck is wrong with some of these cops? Its like they think they are in a war zone and not America. "I thought it was a gun" should not be an excuse. Start charging these idiots with attempted murder since that is what they did, they attempted to murder an innocent person.

Fuck the cops who do this, fuck the departments that condone it and fuck the criminals who make the behavior justified.
 
rudeguy said:
What the fuck is wrong with some of these cops? Its like they think they are in a war zone and not America. "I thought it was a gun" should not be an excuse. Start charging these idiots with attempted murder since that is what they did, they attempted to murder an innocent person.

Fuck the cops who do this, fuck the departments that condone it and fuck the criminals who make the behavior justified.
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Ummm. Did you watch the video?
 
rudeguy said:
What the fuck is wrong with America?

Fuck everyone.
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ftfy



After watching the video...the cop did what he was trained to do...so many people are getting shot by lunatics off their meds, it's shoot first and verify if gun later.

A very very very unfortunate situation 🙁
 
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Kadarin said:
Six shots, hits the guy once? I'm not sure exactly how much training these officers get with their firearms, but I think it's safe to say that they're getting the wrong kind of training.
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Sigh...

go buy a strobe light from Target or Walmart. Turn it on in your bedroom with the other lights off. Do about 50 pushups and 100 jumping jacks. Now try to read a single word written on a poster or a magazine.

Dark+strobes+adrenaline=hard to hit a fucking barn
 
Jodell88 said:
Ummm. Did you watch the video?
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Yes

That little old man who could barely stand was very threatening to the cop. So was the old woman who somehow didn't get hit.

Its the point that cops are scared. They are scared because their departments encourage them to be scared. That old man was not threatening in the least. Sure, maybe draw your gun because he is grabbing something. But try to kill him even though you have no idea what he is holding?

Fuck that cop, fuck his department and fuck any cop who shoots first and asks questions later.
 
rudeguy said:
Yes

That little old man who could barely stand was very threatening to the cop. So was the old woman who somehow didn't get hit.

Its the point that cops are scared. They are scared because their departments encourage them to be scared. That old man was not threatening in the least. Sure, maybe draw your gun because he is grabbing something. But try to kill him even though you have no idea what he is holding?

Fuck that cop, fuck his department and fuck any cop who shoots first and asks questions later.
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I'm with you here. They are trained to fear the public, there's a difference between having a healthy respect for what could happen vs. fearing what could happen.

I completely understand police needing to defend themselves, the other video by comparison shows the opposite. How many times did the guy in the second video not comply?

There has to be a happier middle ground.
 
Phoenix86 said:
I'm with you here. They are trained to fear the public, there's a difference between having a healthy respect for what could happen vs. fearing what could happen.

I completely understand police needing to defend themselves, the other video by comparison shows the opposite. How many times did the guy in the second video not comply?

There has to be a happier middle ground.
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There is no middle ground.

Protect yourself and defend yourself. The police will not do it.

And if its the police that you have to defend yourself from.........
 
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