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Cop kills a man, family is thinking about suing

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
The gene pool has been cleansed. The family is lucky they cannot be sued by the state for raising a useless idiot who forced a cop to do something that will haunt him the rest of his days.
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I agree 100%.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: senseamp
I don't see a problem with this going to court.
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Outside of wasteing taxpayer money and the time of the members of the jury you mean?
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I don't think it's a waste of money to go to court to establish whether the shooting that ended up in death is justified or not. There is a lot of taxpayer money and jury time wasted on much more trivial things. In all likelyhood, the judge will dismiss the case right away and no time will be wasted anyways, but they have the right to bring it in front of the judge and let him decide.
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I also agree with you in that the family does have a right to have their case heard before a judge. However, any judge that sees that video and sides with this family should him or herself be shot in the head.
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
BTW, a head shot is the best way to make sure you immobilize your attacker and the cop had the advantage of being close enough to guarantee a hit to the head. Good for him.

I love how all the liberals always start pointing the finger at the cop and asking stupid questions like "why didn't he just shoot to wound". You don't have time to make calculations to wound someone when your adrenalin is pumping because the other guy is trying to kill you. You shoot to kill, PERIOD. Do any of you fools suggesting "a wounding" have any idea what a cop goes through in a situation like this? I can guarantee that you don't. I have an idea because I have a friend who is a cop and he was forced to shoot a man who pointed a gun at him, right on the front porch of his house and the assailant's mother was watching. I was the only person he talked to about it. It has been a great burden for him to live with knowing he killed someone at close range. He was in the military and in the first Gulf War and knows he has killed people....he just never actually saw them close up since he was shooting them from a helicopter and hes says this is totally different. I am just greatful my friend's training kicked in and he took his 3 shoots and came out only emotionally wounded.
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(nothing to pick on the quoted)

so funny that everyone in this thread thinks they have a superior judgment than others, when most of the responses are full of emotion or a emotional reaction.
 
Originally posted by: Frackal
I'm surprised the cop continued to wrestle with him after that first shot. I would have shot him immediately
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I agree. If someone even reaches for my gun in a struggle, then deadly force is authorized, let alone when they have their own.

The reason he probably didn't fire right away was that he realized that it'd be a very close up shot.
 
I kinda feel like going to the court during the case and laughing at the parents when they lose. It's what stupid people like that deserve. I understand they're grieving, but they need to accept the fact that their son was a worthless piece of dog crap who effectively committed suicide and move on. No reason the rest of the world should have to suffer for their ignorance.
 
Originally posted by: DaWhim
where is the tarser?
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You always answer forcce with one step above or more. Fists are met witha night stick or tazer. Knives or weapons are met with a gun. The police officer was shot at, so he sot back.
 
the kid SHOT at the officer... and with what looks like intent to continue trying. he's a dumbfvck. what else could there be to this story? if you have some beef w/ the cops, you can argue and resist and whatever.. but once you fire that shot, bad judgement or not... you're screwed.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?
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I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.
 
Originally posted by: Ramma2
I don't know, it looked like he was on top and was nearly in control. Was a shot to the head justified? Why not shoulder/arm etc.
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Well, considering the perp tried to KILL the officer, its damn well jujstified. This BS idea that modern society has that you can;t do anything to anyone, no matter what they try to you is just that BS. There are certainly instances where cops cross the line, this, in my opinion, was not one of them. I personally hope this guys parents get laughed out of court, because if this isn't self defense I have no idea what is.
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
The gene pool has been cleansed. The family is lucky they cannot be sued by the state for raising a useless idiot who forced a cop to do something that will haunt him the rest of his days.
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Agree with this, too.

I do take issue with how some cops abuse their powers, but all in all it really pisses me off how some people totally disregard their authority. I could never be a cop. If I had to chase some selfish motherfscker down as he sped through a residential zone or the wrong way on the highway, I'd have to murder him when I finally caught up to him.

I can't imagine acting like a dick to cop, especially when he's got you red-handed. I can't imagine taking off when a cop pulls behind me with his lights on. I certainly can't imagine initiating a physical confrontation with a cop. WTF are these people thinking???
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Ramma2
I don't know, it looked like he was on top and was nearly in control. Was a shot to the head justified? Why not shoulder/arm etc.
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YOU DON'T SHOOT TO WOUND.
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Seriously.... there is no reason to shoot to wound unless there was a magical, easy to hit, non fatal spot that completely immobilized a person 100% of the time.


If someone broke into my house and fired a shot at me, and then slipped and fumbled the gun and bent over to pick it up, I sure as hell wouldnt be trying to shoot his leg... I have 17 shots and would use half of them.

Somewhat different situation, but if you fire a gun at a cop, or near a cop, or struggle with a cop while you have a gun, you deserve to die....
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Does your gun jam during this altercation?
 
Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?
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I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.
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I dunno about other states, but in ohio they are alone. Most police are too.
 
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?
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I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.
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I dunno about other states, but in ohio they are alone. Most police are too.
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thats just plain dumb, should be there for backup, both for themselves and for the other people around them

edt.
And even in Iceland a cop cant even pull you over if they are alone in the car
 
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?
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Almost no place can afford two officers per car anymore. You see it only rarely. Actually, now that I think about it, except for during initial training I don't think I've ever seen two officers in a patrol car.
 
Originally posted by: oboeguy
It's amazing that the kid's dad is quoted as saying he doesn't care what the tape shows. Wow.
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Neither do I but for different reasons...

You pull a gun on a cop and pull the trigger, you better hit him because your ass is grass is he gets a shot off.
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
that family has some nerve!!!

i hope that they have to pay for ALL court costs, including those that the taxpayers are footing for the cops to defend himself.

:|
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QFT. Your dumbfsck kid pulled a gun on a cop and shot at him. Case closed, you do NOT shoot at a police officer and expect to live to tell a story about it.
 
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