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OBLAMA2009

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da guy was firs dagree murded. they said dhey was gonna burn 'im and das what dhey did...rip
 

Red Squirrel

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Assuming this is confirmed and that he really is dead, in a way, this is better than if they would have shot him. I'm sure burning someone alive will cause a bigger shit storm than a bullet to the head would.

It's just too bad he never got to reveal the information he had on their corruption. Or maybe he did and it's just going to take a while to get "out there", such as a package mailed somewhere.
 

Destiny

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http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-cabin-not-purposely-burned-firefight-003121793.html

San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said Wednesday the fire was not set on purpose.
"We did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get Mr. Dorner out," he said.
His deputies lobbed pyrotechnic tear gas into the cabin, and it erupted in flames, he said. McMahon did not say directly that the tear gas started the blaze, and the cause of the fire was under investigation.


So they used tear gas that sparked and caused a flame? Earlier reports stated they switched from regular tear gas to ones that were pyrotechnic...:colbert:
 

OBLAMA2009

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Assuming this is confirmed and that he really is dead, in a way, this is better than if they would have shot him. I'm sure burning someone alive will cause a bigger shit storm than a bullet to the head would.

It's just too bad he never got to reveal the information he had on their corruption. Or maybe he did and it's just going to take a while to get "out there", such as a package mailed somewhere.

he was fired and now assassinated to keep him from exposing lapd criminality
 

Destiny

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...te-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html


"Ok, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."


SWAT officers surrounding the cabin were under a "constant barrage of gunfire," one source said. “He put himself in that position. There weren’t a lot of options.” Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.


They called them burners knowingly that the "burners" will cause a fire = They BBQed him!! :colbert:
 

Dari

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If they burned down the place on purpose then I am assuming this is murder and his family can sue for wrongful death...
 

purbeast0

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i don't see why them burning the cabin down, even on purpose, is such a big deal. the dude killed 4 people and is a psycho. considering he was in numerous firefights with law enforcement as well, i don't have a problem at all with what they did.

i say kill the crazy dude at all costs. they had him cornered and he wasn't surrendering, and was firing at anyone coming in. he didn't come out after tear gas was thrown in the cabin and the cabin was burning down. he could have came out if he wanted to.

granted, i'm betting he killed himself while he was in the cabin. good riddance though.
 

DrunkenSano

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he didn't come out after tear gas was thrown in the cabin and the cabin was burning down. he could have came out if he wanted to.

He tried to come out the back but SWAT team pushed him back in and trapped him there. They were trying to assassinate him the entire time so of course he'd fight back. If he gave up, there is no doubt they would've killed him and claim that he was attacking them.

Corrupt LA pigs are corrupt.
 

purbeast0

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He tried to come out the back but SWAT team pushed him back in and trapped him there. They were trying to assassinate him the entire time so of course he'd fight back. If he gave up, there is no doubt they would've killed him and claim that he was attacking them.

Corrupt LA pigs are corrupt.

that doesn't make any sense. how did he "try to come out" and how did they "force him back in" ?

link?
 

DrunkenSano

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/police-checking-reports-that-ex-lapd-officer-dorner-sighted/

[Updated at 8:34 p.m. ET] At some point today, a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin, but he was pushed back inside, U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told CNN's Brian Todd.
We're still waiting for details about the fire at the cabin, which began about an hour ago.


They could've just taken him down right there when he came out the back door, instead, SWAT pushed him back in.
 
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Doesn't take any kind of media polishing or intervention to completely torpedo this guy's legacy. Facts are facts - he killed innocent people because he was a fucking psycho. Any crimes against him, real or imagined, were absolutely inconsequential in the face of how he reacted.

Actually it is sort of like 9/11 - America's actions in the Middle East created resentment and then OBL goes crazy and attacks us. Maybe it wasn't totally unprovoked, but it wasn't a justifiable or sane response either.

Dorner wasn't a psycho, he was a murderer. Although wrong, vengeance is not an irrational reaction to anything; he obviously decided that bringing attention to the LAPD corruption was more important than the lives of some human beings. A perfectly logical thought process, however, fucked up his values became to murder innocents.

Although this begs the question: Why didn't he first go after the people who actually wronged him???
 
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Jeeebus

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The question that I've been wondering about is this - why the hell did the FBI not swoop in and try to take over once they had him cornered in the cabin - and why the hell would the local police not want the FBI to take charge?

If you're the FBI, you've got a guy running around claiming extreme police corruption, you've got the LAPD shooting up any truck on the street in what looks like an effort to silence the guy, and now you're going to allow the local police force to spearhead this guy's "arrest" once he is surrounded?

If you're the San Bernadino police (and you're trying to be perceived as the "good" guy), you have to know that any outcome where Dorner is dead is going to raise questions about how he was taken out. Remove local police from the equation and it's a hell of a lot harder for all of us to insinuate that the FBI had it out for this guy too.

Just doesn't add up.
 

purbeast0

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/police-checking-reports-that-ex-lapd-officer-dorner-sighted/




They could've just taken him down right there when he came out the back door, instead, SWAT pushed him back in.

oh ok.

to be honest i'm not taking cnn very seriously considering they posted articles days apart stating they found his wallet in 2 separate locations.

still don't know what "pushed back in" means. he has killed 4 people and been in multiple shootouts already. i don't see him as being someone who would be pushed around like that.
 

Capt Caveman

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waggy

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oh ok.

to be honest i'm not taking cnn very seriously considering they posted articles days apart stating they found his wallet in 2 separate locations.

still don't know what "pushed back in" means. he has killed 4 people and been in multiple shootouts already. i don't see him as being someone who would be pushed around like that.

there was aslo a picture of CNN saying the body was that of a female. it was posted on a few places.
 

DrunkenSano

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:biggrin: I think you're taking the term literally. Do you really think that officers were standing outside of the door with the cabin on fire to physically push him back in if he tried to get out?

So either they physically pushed him back in or opened fire at him to keep him inside. That's not allowing him to come out or surrender. Either way, they gave him no option to surrender and saying so was complete bullshit. They had one agenda once that manifesto was sent out, to silence him permanently.

LAPD is extremely corrupt, all the way to the top.
 

Ns1

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the dude was simply freakin awesome to stand up to a well armed army of thug cops and take two of them out

how is that not first degree murder to say they are going to burn him to death and then to do it??

o_O
 
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