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Cop: "Can I search your car?"

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Wow...they had to call in a K9 unit? Without a search warrant that's an illegal search. K9 searches are generally only kosher if a K9 search would not take any longer than a normal traffic stop. generally this means that a K9 unit is there at the time you are stopped. If the cop had to call one in and you had to wait for the K9 unit to arrive...that's not a valid search!

I would have politely asked if I could leave (before the K9 unit arrived)...and I wouldn't be surprised if the officer would have told me I could leave...before the K9 unit arrived. Otherwise everything in the search would likely be thrown out...so...

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT. Plus, K9s only search for drugs, if he scratches your trunk and they find other illegal stuff, likely it's not going to be admitted into evidence at whatever trial. IF you give consent, whatever they find in your car will be admissible as evidence.

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT.
 
Originally posted by: GregGreen
Why were you waiting for the k9? He didn't arrest you, you were free to go...

No, you're not. At that point the cop has legally seized you & you can't leave.
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Because I've had long hair for the past 35-40 yrs., I been thru this @ 10 times.

Live and Learn I guess.




 
Originally posted by: Kanalua
Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Wow...they had to call in a K9 unit? Without a search warrant that's an illegal search. K9 searches are generally only kosher if a K9 search would not take any longer than a normal traffic stop. generally this means that a K9 unit is there at the time you are stopped. If the cop had to call one in and you had to wait for the K9 unit to arrive...that's not a valid search!

I would have politely asked if I could leave (before the K9 unit arrived)...and I wouldn't be surprised if the officer would have told me I could leave...before the K9 unit arrived. Otherwise everything in the search would likely be thrown out...so...

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT. Plus, K9s only search for drugs, if he scratches your trunk and they find other illegal stuff, likely it's not going to be admitted into evidence at whatever trial. IF you give consent, whatever they find in your car will be admissible as evidence.

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT.

I think there is a certain amount of time (20 minutes?) that is acceptable for a traffic stop.

I don't think this actually happened to JEDI.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: GregGreen
Why were you waiting for the k9? He didn't arrest you, you were free to go...

No, you're not. At that point the cop has legally seized you & you can't leave.

since when can cops "legally seize" you? It's called being detained, and on stop such as this, it isn't constitutional
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Are you wanted for some crime we should know? I never had a cop EVER ask me to search my car. I would say no, never give up your rights unless you absolutely have to.
 
Originally posted by: Kanalua
Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Wow...they had to call in a K9 unit? Without a search warrant that's an illegal search. K9 searches are generally only kosher if a K9 search would not take any longer than a normal traffic stop. generally this means that a K9 unit is there at the time you are stopped. If the cop had to call one in and you had to wait for the K9 unit to arrive...that's not a valid search!

I would have politely asked if I could leave (before the K9 unit arrived)...and I wouldn't be surprised if the officer would have told me I could leave...before the K9 unit arrived. Otherwise everything in the search would likely be thrown out...so...

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT. Plus, K9s only search for drugs, if he scratches your trunk and they find other illegal stuff, likely it's not going to be admitted into evidence at whatever trial. IF you give consent, whatever they find in your car will be admissible as evidence.

DO NOT GIVE CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT.

Assuming that any said cop that did that actually "played" by the rules after breaking them in the first place. Tell me this isn't a scenario that hasn't happened before:


Officer: Excuse me judge I found this brick of weed and a few casing in the trunk of the perps car.

Judge: How did you find it?

Officer: Well sir, I asked if I could search the car after a routine traffic stop, the perp said yes and I proceeded to the trunk. Found a few casings, decided to call a k9 unit in and then found the dope.

Judge: Well son, did you give legal consent for your car to be searched?

Defendant: Hell no old man, like I told whitey in the suit, ain't no one allowed on my ride.

Judge: Well, after careful consideration of the evidence, I am going to have to find you guilty of possession of and also contempt of court and purgery for lying.




Now nothing like this has ever happened to me. Worst was catching an officer lying in the middle of court when I actually fought a speeding ticket and had 3 witnesses, and video. I was driving to my brother's wedding with some other family members and friends and bringing a video camera along. While on the highway, a car very similar to mine zooms right past me on in the left lane flying down the street. A cop going the opposite direction tags that car, but can't cross to our side of the highway immediately to give chase because of the barrier. He has to go about a mile or so down and OUT OF SIGHT to find an opening in the barrier, and comes back up and pulls me over and hands me the ticket. Of course, I fight it, ask for a trial by judge, bring in my 3 witnesses, my video evidence, and the cop "loses" his video evidence. I still get fined. When I asked the judge at the end, what swayed his decision, he said, "because your story and the officer's didn't match."

Well no shyt sherlock.

Stupid small hick towns in south texas with hick officers and hick judges that bend their laws to suit their own needs half the time. Least when it comes to raising revenue through speeding tickets.








 
I have long hair, and was wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt last time I was pulled over. Other than grilling me about where I was coming from and going to and asking if I had any drugs while making me sit in his cruiser, it wasn't too bad. He never asked to search the vehicle (I would have said no, I was five hours into a nine hour drive). He pulled me over for not having a front plate and going either 79 or 81 (he said both numbers) in a 75. I got a ticket for no front plate.
 
I have a friend who has a really nice car and stupid cops always thinks he looks like a drug dealer. He's had his car searched over a dozen times. No matter what you say they'll eventually search your car. They'll call K9, and search it. The dogs always go to the trunk; it's habit. They'll get a game warden to search it. Or they'll say you acted suspicious and nervous which gives them probably cause. If they want to do a search they will, the constitution be damned.
 
Originally posted by: astroidea
I've been illegally searched without any consent, or even notification at that.

Cop comes out of nowhere and pulls me over.
He immediately asks me if I've been smoking weed or drinking. The only suspicion he could've had was that I looked like a teen and drove a sports car(miata), as I neither smoked nor drank.
After looking over my registration and ID, he tells me to get out of the car.
He grabs my hands and holds them tightly behind my back and he patted me down.
He then proceeded to put me in the back of his car, with my hands on the railing, as he thoroughly dug through my car.
After his failure to find anything to hold me against, and sees that my record is clean, he lets me go.
I drive off.
And here is where the really fvcked up part comes in.
He pulls me over again a block later, and tells me if I remembered to pick my credit card off from my trunk. My credit card was in my wallet that was on the passenger seat, WHY THE FUCK DID HE TAKE IT OUT, and the proceed to give a sob story on how he left it on the trunk?

I'll let you decide on that one. Needless to say, I cancelled my credit card as soon as I got home.

Did you at least make the attempt to file a formal complaint?
 
And even if they don't find anything in your trunk, don't put it past them to drop a dime bag in there and haul your ass away.
 
Originally posted by: GregGreen
Why were you waiting for the k9? He didn't arrest you, you were free to go...

No, they can detain you. If he had up and left, he'd have been charged with something like obstruction of justice during a field investigation.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
And even if they don't find anything in your trunk, don't put it past them to drop a dime bag in there and haul your ass away.

And I'd ask why my fingerprints aren't on the bag.
 
Originally posted by: ActiveX
Originally posted by: JEDI
Cop stops you for some bogus traffic violation. asks if he can search your car. even tho the car is clean, you say no bacause you dont feel like having it searched.

he calls for a k9 unit to sniff the outside of your car for drugs.

k9 unit arrives. k9 scratches the trunk area. bingo... probably cause. they search your car.

in the future, just say yes if the cop wants to search your car. it saves time. (the k9 is trained to scratch the trunk area every time :Q :| )

/Rant

Are you wanted for some crime we should know? I never had a cop EVER ask me to search my car. I would say no, never give up your rights unless you absolutely have to.

I was stopped once by a VA cop for a safety belt violation and he asked me to search my car. Well, I am Turkish, so I have a skin color darker than a banana, so I guess he thought I was an Osama or something 😕 Anyways, I wasn't aware of my rights back then (this happening in 2001, my 2nd year in the U.S.) and I said "ok, you can search". So he did search my car, asked about some maps in the trunk.... they were VA maps because I was driving from Blacksburg to Potomac Mills. Then he proceeded to ask me about what I was doing in the U.S. and stuff... told him I was a collge student... the guy was obviously looking for a reason to put the cuffs on me but oh well, sucks to be him 🙂
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: jpeyton
And even if they don't find anything in your trunk, don't put it past them to drop a dime bag in there and haul your ass away.

And I'd ask why my fingerprints aren't on the bag.
Smart dealers always wear gloves when handling their product.

Kids these days...:roll:
 
I disagree, I had this happen to me for NO reason, I said "I know my rights" They are PISSED, so they had me sit on the curb until they were somehow able to magically get a warrant to search my car for no reason. Now I'm sitting on the curb for a good 1 1/2 hours longer while they go from searching my car to sitting in their car back to searching my car. Finally they finished and said I was free to go. When I get to my car, the inside of it looks like a tornado hit it, nothing is ripped or ruined but everything has been thrown around, papers everywhere, floor mats all on the back seat bundled up and my keys are nowhere to be found. I look up and the cops are sitting in their car just watching me, I know they did something with my keys but I don't want to ask because I have no idea what they'll do to me.

I spend 30 minutes looking until I find my keys, they had put them under the drivers seat to where they were even under the carpet so I had to reach in a little hole to get them. I filed a complaint with their department, after not hearing back for a week I called once and got no response.

I was pulled over for making an erratic lane change, it was late and dark and I saw the street (had never been there) and I BOOM turn really quick without using my blinker. They knew I wasn't drinking and I don't really suspect they thought I had anything illegal in my car.

All fighting for my rights did have me sitting on the curb for 2 hours instead of maybe 10 minutes, not really worth it IMHO.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: jpeyton
And even if they don't find anything in your trunk, don't put it past them to drop a dime bag in there and haul your ass away.

And I'd ask why my fingerprints aren't on the bag.

I've never seen it matter. It's in your possession.

Argue all you want.

Unless you have a ton of money, it won't make a difference.

Welcome to the real world.



 
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
I have a friend who has a really nice car and stupid cops always thinks he looks like a drug dealer. He's had his car searched over a dozen times. No matter what you say they'll eventually search your car. They'll call K9, and search it. The dogs always go to the trunk; it's habit. They'll get a game warden to search it. Or they'll say you acted suspicious and nervous which gives them probably cause. If they want to do a search they will, the constitution be damned.

The easiest solution to this is to have no trunk.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: jpeyton
And even if they don't find anything in your trunk, don't put it past them to drop a dime bag in there and haul your ass away.

And I'd ask why my fingerprints aren't on the bag.

doesn't matter. In a court of law, a lying cop > your word
 
Smart dealers always wear gloves when handling their product.
Kids these days...

I'm no kid (56 and been doing drugs since 18) and have never seen it.

Not saying you haven't, but from here, you're talking nonsense.



 
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