Convoy of Death. Documentary claims US troops complicit in massacre

[GrGr]

Why have US television stations refused to broadcast this documentary?

In Afghanistan, filmmaker Jamie Doran has uncovered evidence of a massacre: Taliban prisoners of war suffocated in containers, shot in the desert under the watch of American troops.
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The film provides eyewitness testimony that U.S. troops were complicit in the massacre of thousands of Taliban prisoners during the Afghan War.

It tells the story of thousands of prisoners who surrendered to the US military?s Afghan allies after the siege of Kunduz. According to eyewitnesses, some three thousand of the prisoners were forced into sealed containers and loaded onto trucks for transport to Sheberghan prison. Eyewitnesses say when the prisoners began shouting for air, U.S.-allied Afghan soldiers fired directly into the truck, killing many of them. The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds.

Witnesses say that when the trucks arrived and soldiers opened the containers, most of the people inside were dead. They also say US Special Forces re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert and stood by as survivors were shot and buried. Now, up to three thousand bodies lie buried in a mass grave.

The film has been broadcast on national television in countries all over the world and has been screened by the European parliament. Human rights lawyers are calling for investigation into whether U.S. forces are guilty of war crimes. But no U.S. media outlet has broadcast the film.
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Convoy of Death (requires Realplayer)

 

[halik]

first off booooo real player


second is it an actual footage of the soldiers doing that, or is it some taliban/afghans saying "amerikans, they kill all, bad amerikans!" as they hit the hash pipe? With all the anti-american sentiment out there, you'd need a shovel to get thru the BS

 

[StageLeft]

Frankly that sounds more than a little incredible.

 

[Red Dawn]

I seriously doubt that American Troops would go along with something like that and keep quiet about it!

 

[conjur]

"The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds. "


"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: conjur
"The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds. "


"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

eh, i didnt read it that far.... sounds rediculous especially since Afghanistan's climate is nowhere near capabale of dehydrating people like that....

Motion to raise te "Utter Bullsh!t" card...

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: conjur
"The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds. "


"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

You don't survive for more than a few days without water. These prisoners were locked in suffocating containers.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: conjur
"The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds. "


"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

You don't survive for more than a few days without water. These prisoners were locked in suffocating containers.

maybe in a desert and in the sun, afghanistan has fairly cold climate...

 

[Czar]

this has been on and off in the news ever since it presumingly happened, the only way to clear this up is to have an official investigation

 

[NeoV]

guys, whether or not this is true - it is utter nonsense for anyone on this forum to make statements like "afghanistan has fairly cold climate.." or ""up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side" or "since Afghanistan's climate is nowhere near capabale of dehydrating people like that...."

Afghanistan is cold - up in the mountains. I'm guessing if you were locked in a container in the back of a truck, with a hundred other people also in similar containers in the back of a truck, and perhaps it was sunny out, warming the 'sealed' truck even more, that yes, after 4 days, you could be suffering from a lack of water.

None of us have any real knowledge in this area, so lets not try to be smart 4sses about any and everything that gets posted on this board.

Does the story sound hard to believe? Yes, it does, but not because of anything about the potential suffering of the supposed victims. To me, the fact that this story was never 'leaked' by any of the US soldiers that supposedly participated, or by any US media source, seems hard to believe.

 

[LTC8K6]

That's an old story and the source should be enough to ignore it.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
That's an old story and the source should be enough to ignore it.

The fact that there was a massacre should be reason enough to investigate it. The US went to war to prevent this kind of thing right?

 

[KK]

Must have been a Michael Moore documentary.

KK

 

[DeeKnow]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
That's an old story and the source should be enough to ignore it.

The fact that there was a massacre should be reason enough to investigate it. The US went to war to prevent this kind of thing right?

why do ppl keep repeating that ??? that's nonsense

the US went to war to get OBL's ass - plain and simple
this holy pretense about fighting wars to 'liberate' ppl and bring them democracy is just too absurd

i'm not saying there was anything wrong with going in there. lets just not fool ourselves about why it was done

 

[Mardeth]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: conjur
"The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds. "


"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

eh, i didnt read it that far.... sounds rediculous especially since Afghanistan's climate is nowhere near capabale of dehydrating people like that....

Motion to raise te "Utter Bullsh!t" card...

You do know that humans die with days without drinking? At least when they dont have to do more than sit or sleep, then you might survive even a week!

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I seriously doubt that American Troops would go along with something like that and keep quiet about it!

if they were lead to belive that is what is best for America they sure would.

Originally posted by: conjur
"up to four days" and they were already that ravished? Sounds a bit on the incredulous side.

four days without watter is about three days from death.

Originally posted by: halikmaybe in a desert and in the sun, afghanistan has fairly cold climate...

it is in the high 90s there right now, you call that cold?

 

[SneakyStuff]

propoganda perhaps? seems a bit far fetched.

 

[nCred]

Try to not drink anything for 24 hours and see how it feels, and yes, you can die after 4 days without water even if it´s not warm.

 

[Zephyr106]

Uhhhh I thought this incident was already confirmed? Brushed under the rug and the administration even attempted censoring when the documentary on the subject was shown in Europe.

And I really can't believe these comments about water, and Afghanistan's "pleasant" climate. Try not drinking anything for four days, and post back here....

Zephyr

 

[nCred]

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"most people will die if they go for more than 72 hours without a drink"

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I seem to recall this incident being reported at the time, actually, minus the shooting by Afghani and American soldiers. I do recall a report of a convoy of detainees dying after being transported in a sealed container.

 

[GrGr]

The massacre is fact. The question is how involved the US troops were, if at all, and if this behaviour is tolerated, or even condoned, in US allies.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I seem to recall this incident being reported at the time, actually, minus the shooting by Afghani and American soldiers. I do recall a report of a convoy of detainees dying after being transported in a sealed container.

I remember the shooting part, the excuse was that they were airholes

 

[kylebisme]

prety poor excuse.

 

[imported_Aelius]

This is not a surprise.

If you were part of an SF Group or done research on what an SF Group member goes through while deployed you wouldn't even ask some of the above questions. It would be normal.

If there was perhaps one inaccuracy then that would be whom was in charge. This is debatable.

Typical SF Groups do not give orders to those whom they are deployed with. Those they are deployed with (Afghan Warlords) would be unwilling to give up their powerbase to them or to American commanders.

Having said that they would be quite willing to co-operate with whatever an SF Group recommends if it was in both of their best interests. This is where it is credible to say that it is possible that Americans were giving order and the Afghan commanders were following suit from their commanders.

If you look at the history of an SF Group, regardless of which one, you will be able to dig up some evidence of where they "might" have been deployed, since actual information is classified. You will notice that many of these places around the world have a history of human rights violations, torture, murder, and death.

According SF Group members and their leadership, usually these things happen completely out of their control and they are forced to watch and do nothing. Apparently it is a very common sight to watch a commander drag one of his own troops in front of the Americans to be shoot to show them that he is in charge and no one else. SF Group members just live with it because they tell themselves that ultimately the ends justify the means, regardless of what is done by those they are deployed with.

That's reality.

This information comes from a number of books that look at the history of the Special Forces Groups (Green Berets) operating around the world. I suggest going to your local library and reading up on this subject if you care to or do research on the Internet.