Convicted U.S. Felon's Book 'Natural Cures' Tops Charts

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Amused

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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Amused
There is also evidence that blocking all exposure to UVB creates deficiencies in vitamin D, which can lead to problems.
Exactly, the chance that you get skin cancer looks like a U-shaped graph when plotted against the amount of time spent in the sun. People who get very little or no sun exposure at all have moderately high rates of skin cancer. People who get 5-10 minutes of sun every few days have a very low rate of skin cancer. People who get 15+ minutes of sun a day have very high rates of skin cancer. Thus putting on too much sunscreen is the same as staying indoors - you don't get your vitamin D, you don't get protective tans, and you get more skin cancer. Sunscreen doesn't cause cancer, complete lack of sun causes cancer. So if you are the type of person who rarely gets outside, don't wear sunscreen. But if you are the type of person who is outside a lot, wear sunscreen.

Everything in moderation when it comes to health.

What about seasonal expose? How does it apply to people who get tanned or even burned in the summer but not so much in the winter?

That means you have to moderate your summer exposure better.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.
 

Siva

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.

Do you think a library would have a book that can be found on infomercials?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.

Do you think a library would have a book that can be found on infomercials?

IIRC, your local library will have all the current bestsellers.

And this book is not only available on infomercials. It's on the bestseller list and available at bookstores.
 

Siva

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.

Do you think a library would have a book that can be found on infomercials?

IIRC, your local library will have all the current bestsellers.

And this book is not only available on infomercials. It's on the bestseller list and available at bookstores.

That's kind of depressing but also a good thing I guess. I wouldn't want someone else picking and choosing books for a library, that might defeat the point of free access to literature. However this book doesn't belong on the shelf of any library.
 
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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.

Do you think a library would have a book that can be found on infomercials?


the Topeka library has this book, as well as his books on tape of Mega Memory and Mega Math according to the online website.

and sadly enough, all 33 copies are checked out.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Amused
There is also evidence that blocking all exposure to UVB creates deficiencies in vitamin D, which can lead to problems.
Exactly, the chance that you get skin cancer looks like a U-shaped graph when plotted against the amount of time spent in the sun. People who get very little or no sun exposure at all have moderately high rates of skin cancer. People who get 5-10 minutes of sun every few days have a very low rate of skin cancer. People who get 15+ minutes of sun a day have very high rates of skin cancer. Thus putting on too much sunscreen is the same as staying indoors - you don't get your vitamin D, you don't get protective tans, and you get more skin cancer. Sunscreen doesn't cause cancer, complete lack of sun causes cancer. So if you are the type of person who rarely gets outside, don't wear sunscreen. But if you are the type of person who is outside a lot, wear sunscreen.

Everything in moderation when it comes to health.

What about seasonal expose? How does it apply to people who get tanned or even burned in the summer but not so much in the winter?

That means you have to moderate your summer exposure better.


Or wear a moderate amount of sunscreen.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Siva
What about seasonal expose? How does it apply to people who get tanned or even burned in the summer but not so much in the winter?
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, thus it can be measured in your body for up to 6 months. However, significant amounts probably don't stay in your body past a few weeks. So the vitamin D portion tends to even things out. You can get a little more sun on some days and none on other days.

However that was only one half of the equation. A tan actually helps protect you somewhat from future sunburns. A tan lasts, what, a week? So a tan today won't help you in winter.

Also, once you get burned, you are past the moderation point. You are doing yourself great harm. Excess + withdrawl does not equal moderation.
 

40Hands

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Jon Stewart did a segment on this guy. I cannot believe that this guys book is doing so well. Ahh the stupid sh!t people can be conned into buying.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i talked Lola out of bying this book on Saturday.

i get a kick out books like this. they are humorous to me!

Check it out at the library instead of financing this idiot.

Do you think a library would have a book that can be found on infomercials?

IIRC, your local library will have all the current bestsellers.

And this book is not only available on infomercials. It's on the bestseller list and available at bookstores.

That's kind of depressing but also a good thing I guess. I wouldn't want someone else picking and choosing books for a library, that might defeat the point of free access to literature. However this book doesn't belong on the shelf of any library.

You'd be surprised at the number of books promoting quackery and myths that your local library will have.

Hell, half of them are in the religion section. ;) :p
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Siva
What about seasonal expose? How does it apply to people who get tanned or even burned in the summer but not so much in the winter?
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, thus it can be measured in your body for up to 6 months. However, significant amounts probably don't stay in your body past a few weeks. So the vitamin D portion tends to even things out. You can get a little more sun on some days and none on other days.

However that was only one half of the equation. A tan actually helps protect you somewhat from future sunburns. A tan lasts, what, a week? So a tan today won't help you in winter.

Also, once you get burned, you are past the moderation point. You are doing yourself great harm. Excess + withdrawl does not equal moderation.
A tan lasts a lot longer than a week.

My girlfriend still has tan lines on her back from two summers ago.

Of course, these things vary a lot from person to person.
 

borosp1

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This guy was on CNN on Paula Zahn show. Kevin Trudeau is the biggest bull Shit3r ive ever seen. Any question Paula asked he answered with a question. Saying some BS on how the Govt and drug companies are making people sick.

Kevin Trudeau is a freaken salesman with no medical background and I feel sorry for anyone with a serious medical problem taking this idiot seriously. This is the reason why I hate all salesman.. They can smile and lie straight to your face without any sense of morals... its all about the dollar with these snake oil pedlers! :(
 

imported_Lucifer

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PLEASE READ THIS!!

THE BOOK IS A SCAM. I worked telemarketing for quite sometime, and the book is a scam. I took orders for his bullsh!t product. I have look through this book, and saw no natural cures. Its utter bullsh!t. Also, when you order the book, there are all kinds of crap attached to the offer. The newsletter and the weight loss cd is crap. He says you get the last 6 months issues free. BUT IF YOU DO NOT CALL AND TELL THEM YOU DO NOT WANT ANYMORE NEWSLETTERS, YOU WILL BE CHARGED 5.95 a month. Also, the book keeps urging you to visit his site and become a member for 9.95 a month. The site is BS. It has NOTHING on it.

PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM. I took orders for it. Biggest scam ever. If you have ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BOOK, PM me please.

:) the end

EDIT: Please check this out.

Also, read the reviews on Amazon for the book. Got very low ratings.
 

DAGTA

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The bad thing is the huge amount of damage Trudeau is going to do the naturalist community by putting his name in it. I don't trust the guy and I believe him to be only motivated by greed.

However, that said, I have read the book and compared it to the nutritional information I've been learning the for the past 15 months and the other people I have talked to in that time. I'd estimate that about 75% of the book's information is true. Trudeau is simply jumping on what he considers to be a fad and milking it, unknowingly spreading a lot of information that is actually true. So, bad messenger but decent message.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: rh71
I saw the infomercial quite a while back and he sounded convincing. I didn't know he was a felon of course.

The Chinese have for centuries trusted herbs to do their healing. I wouldn't be so quick on the draw. The fact that he's been in jail for false advertising no doubt helps the non-believers though.

People have burned witches for centuries too.
except that doesn't happen anymore in the united states

Fixed ;)

Small point of order. Witches were never burned in the United States. The Salem trials took place in 1692.

I've seen that guy shilling that book on a lot of TV "news" shows.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: rh71
I saw the infomercial quite a while back and he sounded convincing. I didn't know he was a felon of course.

The Chinese have for centuries trusted herbs to do their healing. I wouldn't be so quick on the draw. The fact that he's been in jail for false advertising no doubt helps the non-believers though.

People have burned witches for centuries too.
except that doesn't happen anymore in the united states

Fixed ;)

Small point of order. Witches were never burned in the United States. The Salem trials took place in 1692.

I've seen that guy shilling that book on a lot of TV "news" shows.

And the Salem witches were hung for the most part. Burning took place in Europe, not the Americas.

Nineteen accused Salem witches were hanged, one was "pressed" to death.

17 died in prison.