Control panel clocks vs. real clocks on BFG 7800GTX

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My BFG version reads 1200 on the ram too, with coolbits. It seems my post earlier about BFG and the clock speeds, wasnt so wrong after all. Or is it? Im confused on the subject.

BFG has released a new bios, that is suppoed to fix this problem. .25 is the good one, .22 is the bad one. Sadly, I have .22. And no floppy drive to do a flash, how annoying.

So 11.25 is the good BIOS? That's what my BFG Tech came with. How can there be cards with older BIOS when these things just came out?

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Xentropy
Yes, but a registry tweak is necessary to open up that panel. Do a Google search for "Coolbits" or "NVTweak". Those will install the necessary registry entries to see and modify the speed sliders.

Is this why the additional properties is shaded out?

 

[BroadbandGamer]

I just checked my speeds using Coolbits and it's showing the core clocked at 275 and the memory at 1300. That core speed has to be wrong. I'm getting 8100+ in 3dmark05.

So what's going on?

**Update** Oops, I was looking at the 2D tab. The 3D tab shows the correct 460MHz.

 

[Xentropy]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My BFG version reads 1200 on the ram too, with coolbits. It seems my post earlier about BFG and the clock speeds, wasnt so wrong after all. Or is it? Im confused on the subject.

BFG has released a new bios, that is suppoed to fix this problem. .25 is the good one, .22 is the bad one. Sadly, I have .22. And no floppy drive to do a flash, how annoying.

According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Also, there's some way of getting the BIOS to flash, because at first people were telling me to flash mine to .25 "again" to make sure it took the first time. I had to explain mine came with it. Heh. I haven't looked for it, though, since I already have it.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Xentropy

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My BFG version reads 1200 on the ram too, with coolbits. It seems my post earlier about BFG and the clock speeds, wasnt so wrong after all. Or is it? Im confused on the subject.

BFG has released a new bios, that is suppoed to fix this problem. .25 is the good one, .22 is the bad one. Sadly, I have .22. And no floppy drive to do a flash, how annoying.

According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Also, there's some way of getting the BIOS to flash, because at first people were telling me to flash mine to .25 "again" to make sure it took the first time. I had to explain mine came with it. Heh. I haven't looked for it, though, since I already have it.

I emailed BFG before I got my card and they sent me the 11.25 BIOS and how to flash my card. I don't need it becaue mine also came with 11.25.

 

[Romir]

Originally posted by: Xentropy
According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Newly installed BFG 7800 with .22 bios: 3dmark05 8060. It reported 1197mhz memory.
Rebooted and flashed to .25 bios: 3dmark05 8314. Memory now reported at 1305.

That's what I saw when I first got the card on Tuesday. Rivatuner/coolbits/other tweaking utilities were not installed. .25 seems to fix the memory speed so all is well.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Romir

Originally posted by: Xentropy
According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Newly installed BFG 7800 with .22 bios: 3dmark05 8060. It reported 1197mhz memory.
Rebooted and flashed to .25 bios: 3dmark05 8314. Memory now reported at 1305.

That's what I saw when I first got the card on Tuesday. Rivatuner/coolbits/other tweaking utilities were not installed. .25 seems to fix the memory speed so all is well.

I'm getting a little over 8100 on 3dmark05. Not bad but what really has me impressed is playing BF2 with AA at 8xS and AF at 16x with Transparency Supersampling AA on. Man the game just looks beautiful and it runs smooth as glass! My X800XTPE couldn't even come close to these settings!

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer

Originally posted by: Romir

Originally posted by: Xentropy
According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Newly installed BFG 7800 with .22 bios: 3dmark05 8060. It reported 1197mhz memory.
Rebooted and flashed to .25 bios: 3dmark05 8314. Memory now reported at 1305.

That's what I saw when I first got the card on Tuesday. Rivatuner/coolbits/other tweaking utilities were not installed. .25 seems to fix the memory speed so all is well.

I'm getting a little over 8100 on 3dmark05. Not bad but what really has me impressed is playing BF2 with AA at 8xS and AF at 16x with Transparency Supersampling AA on. Man the game just looks beautiful and it runs smooth as glass! My X800XTPE couldn't even come close to these settings!

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a 7800 of some sort. Update your sig already!

So does transparency supersampling help image quality? Could you post a screenshot or are you too busy playing it?

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer

Originally posted by: Romir

Originally posted by: Xentropy
According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Newly installed BFG 7800 with .22 bios: 3dmark05 8060. It reported 1197mhz memory.
Rebooted and flashed to .25 bios: 3dmark05 8314. Memory now reported at 1305.

That's what I saw when I first got the card on Tuesday. Rivatuner/coolbits/other tweaking utilities were not installed. .25 seems to fix the memory speed so all is well.

Well, I sure think it does. Everything is just rock sold. No jaggies in sight. On my X800XTPE even at 4x AA I could see jaggies.

I'd post a screenshot but I'm in the middle of some other stuff right now. Maybe if I get a chance later.

I'm getting a little over 8100 on 3dmark05. Not bad but what really has me impressed is playing BF2 with AA at 8xS and AF at 16x with Transparency Supersampling AA on. Man the game just looks beautiful and it runs smooth as glass! My X800XTPE couldn't even come close to these settings!

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a 7800 of some sort. Update your sig already!

So does transparency supersampling help image quality? Could you post a screenshot or are you too busy playing it?

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Well that's strange. When I hit the print screen button it turned AA off.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
Well that's strange. When I hit the print screen button it turned AA off.

yeah it happens...something to do with front/back buffers or something.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Xentropy

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My BFG version reads 1200 on the ram too, with coolbits. It seems my post earlier about BFG and the clock speeds, wasnt so wrong after all. Or is it? Im confused on the subject.

BFG has released a new bios, that is suppoed to fix this problem. .25 is the good one, .22 is the bad one. Sadly, I have .22. And no floppy drive to do a flash, how annoying.

According to some folks over at nVNews that seem to know what they're talking about, Coolbits reads the .22 BIOS improperly. You are actually at 1300 RAM, it's just reading 1200. Try running 3DMark or RivaTuner and see what speeds they report. Should be something like 501/1305 at stock.

Also, there's some way of getting the BIOS to flash, because at first people were telling me to flash mine to .25 "again" to make sure it took the first time. I had to explain mine came with it. Heh. I haven't looked for it, though, since I already have it.

Just downloaded and insalled both 3dmark, and rivatuner. Both report 501/1.2.

I need to get ahold of a floppy drive.

 

[Xentropy]

That sucks, man. I ended up buying a USB floppy drive at one point since it does some in handy sometimes even if having a floppy permanently attached to each computer isn't necessary anymore.

 

[Ackmed]

Why does it report 501 core? Its not overclocked by me at all.

Sadly, I dont know anyone with a floppy. I used to have a few in my junk PC drawer, but not anymore. I havent used one in years, my motherboard bios updates have been done via Windows with software.

 

[Ackmed]

Ok, some GREAT news. I called BFG tech (like their 24 hours tech). Firstly, the guy spoke great english, which is nice in this day and age. (they are located just a few hundered miles from me)

What he said to do was, hit "Restore Defaults" in coolbits, and that will put it at 1300. Well, I did that, and it worked. Tested it on Rivatuner, and it showed 1300 there as well, once I started up rthdribl. Im very happy now.

Still not sure why they report the core at 501, but better report higher, than lower in my book.

 

[Ronin]

My results when I first got the card reflected the same thing (hence why I said my scores were stock, when 3dMark was showing something completely different).

I haven't checked recently, however, to see if I'm having the same issue.